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#26 Posted: 1/17/2012 5:43:02 PM
yeah weird that DT got like zero respect.....and now BB will just jump in and be as good...or better?
and Kenjon B and D Thomas.....will instantly be as good as LMJ?....
Ducks with SUPER easy early schedule...so maybe Bennett has some time to mature and be ready for tough games (Ducks lucky as hell they get USC in November seems like > so maybe depth-thin Trojans beginning to fade by then).....USC in possible serious trouble at RB and WR.....as like 6 top recruits have been lost .....
LMJ was a tough runner and great competitor....and I don't see how there's no drop off there
*trivia > Bennett in high school as a soph...got his 1st start replacing (surprise) an injured Kevin Prince (UCLA)....and wants to someday be a hair stylist ....
let the jokes begin.....
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#27 Posted: 1/17/2012 10:15:00 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by nc1capper:  you gotta LOVE boise- sup bookie,,I'm taking a beating in the NFL playoffs with a dismal 1-7 posted so far,,OVER (37) for balty/houston and UNDER (56) for GB/NY is an example of how my my selections have worked so far--yikes--
wassup Capper.....
hehe I'm off great weekend.....
drives me crazy I can spend 15-20 min on NFL and usually make $ .....2 straight bets...threw in couple teasers and parlays..made more than any CFB weekend wtf....
who ya like this week?...
kinda like the dogs....but favorites /over dominate this round it seems....
*favorites of 7'-9...are 15-4 ATS ...L5 years....Over is 8-2 ATS....
maybe NE wins a close/high scoring game.....?
SF or NYG.... win a very low scoring game?......(might tease NYG and Under)...(+7' / U 48)....> kinda like the Giants
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#28 Posted: 1/18/2012 2:55:08 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by -29-: I also like S.Miss. +11.
The last time that the 'Huskers took the field, their offense was
pretty much held in check by an Ellis Johnson engineered defense as they
lost 30-13 to the Gamecocks in the Capital One Bowl. Now Johnson is the
HC at Southern Mississippi and he will get his shot at Nebraska to open
the season with the Golden Eagles returning alot of talent.
1st.....what's going on with the Vols man?....
lost a bunch of coaches.....all making lateral moves it seems....Dooley
cleaning house?.....or these guys going on their own....?
tough to like SMiss here....
6/5 back...return RB's and 3/5 OL......running game should be strong...QB is a huge ???
BUT.....lose top HC + 4 yr starter at QB + 7/10 tacklers on D....+ 2 top WR
*checked out those coaching hires?.....
DC is Tommy West...DC at UAB LY....HC at Memphis previously
OC is Ricky Bustle...QB coach at Tulane LY...HC at ULALA before that....
*both decent coaches....but obviously nobody wanted them around
LY.....(or wouldn't be at UAB or Tulane).....Ellis' behind HC/RB coach....has been in high school last 5
yrs......
offensive system should be only slightly different...defense hard to
tell.....terminology will surely be different.....> only 1 coach was
retained
Huskers bring back 8/8 or so ....RB Rex B returns for his 10th year +3/5 OL + knucklehead QB + 8/10 tacklers + great K/P......
key here ....is Pelini is under huge pressure...experienced O just has to be better? ...poor Husker showing vs a talented SCaro team provides some value.....if game was played at end of 2011...Huskers would be favored by 7 or so....they return most everybody (defensive stars were hurt much of LY anyway)....while S Miss a totally different team......Pelini has done well as a home bully (not LY)...so initial lean would be Nebraska.....
*until they are more consistent offensively...tough to bet on these boys.....kinda appears Pelini could be in WAY over his head as a HC.......don't it?
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#29 Posted: 1/18/2012 8:59:26 AM [Quote: Originally Posted by bookieassassin]
1st.....what's going on with the Vols man?....
lost a bunch of coaches.....all making lateral moves it seems....Dooley cleaning house?.....or these guys going on their own....?
The Vols? I've never seen a coaching staff lose six assistants at one time when the HC didn't leave. Worse than that NONE of them left for a better title.They all left for either retirement or as you stated,a lateral move and none of them was asked to leave.Plus they still need to sign a special teams,linebackers,and D-line coach as National Signing Day is quickly approaching.They also didn't have any juniors declare for the NFL for the first time that I can remember.Even Memphis had one,reenforcing my fears that with Justin Fuente in charge of the Tigers and Franklin running things for Vandy, the Vols could drop down to being on the same level as those two instate rivals and maybe even below the 'Dores.
UT was very young the last two years and I'm hopeful that that expierience will start to payoff next year. I don't see any other SEC team that has lost less players heading into next year than the Vols. |
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#30 Posted: 1/18/2012 9:10:38 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by bookieassassin:
tough to like SMiss here....
6/5 back...return RB's and 3/5 OL......running game should be strong...QB is a huge ???
BUT.....lose top HC + 4 yr starter at QB + 7/10 tacklers on D....+ 2 top WR
*checked out those coaching hires?.....
DC is Tommy West...DC at UAB LY....HC at Memphis previously
OC is Ricky Bustle...QB coach at Tulane LY...HC at ULALA before that....
*both decent coaches....but obviously nobody wanted them around LY.....(or wouldn't be at UAB or Tulane).....Ellis' behind HC/RB coach....has been in high school last 5 yrs......
offensive system should be only slightly different...defense hard to tell.....terminology will surely be different.....> only 1 coach was retained
Huskers bring back 8/8 or so ....RB Rex B returns for his 10th year +3/5 OL + knucklehead QB + 8/10 tacklers + great K/P......
key here ....is Pelini is under huge pressure...experienced O just has to be better? ...poor Husker showing vs a talented SCaro team provides some value.....if game was played at end of 2011...Huskers would be favored by 7 or so....they return most everybody (defensive stars were hurt much of LY anyway)....while S Miss a totally different team......Pelini has done well as a home bully (not LY)...so initial lean would be Nebraska.....
*until they are more consistent offensively...tough to bet on these boys.....kinda appears Pelini could be in WAY over his head as a HC.......don't it?
Yeah,Ricky Bustle never got anything going at ULL and his QB/offense wasn't terribly impressive at Tulane.But before that Bustle was probably the best OC that Va.Tech ever had.I believe that his offense led the nation in scoring twice,once under Druckenmiller and once under Mike Vick.*Hopefully with better talent he can achieve better results than he's had the last few years.
As for Tommy West his coaching resume' has certainly been underwhelming the last several years but I think that he will just be carrying out Johnson's defensive schemes with Ellis calling the shots.
I don't think that USM will be better than the 'Huskers next september,I just like them in this spot +11 points.  |
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#31 Posted: 1/18/2012 11:29:40 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by bookieassassin: Look at the juice on Bama/Oregon USA Today. This line did not move
after Thomas declared which makes me think he would not have won the
starting job next year.
Ducks with SUPER easy early schedule...
Oregon has 6 games next year against schools breaking in a new coach (Ark St, Fresno St, Arizona, ASU, Wash St, Colorado). The schedule starts easy which will give them time to break in a QB.
Only game they will not be favored is at USC. Bama is better than Oregon but they play a much better level of competition. If Bama and Oregon both go 11-1 then Bama will be ranked higher going into the BCS selection. But there is a much better chance Bama goes 9-3 than Oregon does, IMO.
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#32 Posted: 1/18/2012 4:26:29 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by thorpe:
Oregon has 6 games next year against schools breaking in a new coach (Ark St, Fresno St, Arizona, ASU, Wash St, Colorado). The schedule starts easy which will give them time to break in a QB.
Only game they will not be favored is at USC. Bama is better than Oregon but they play a much better level of competition. If Bama and Oregon both go 11-1 then Bama will be ranked higher going into the BCS selection. But there is a much better chance Bama goes 9-3 than Oregon does, IMO.
DUCKS
Sat, Sep 01 Arkansas State Eugene, Ore.
Sat, Sep 08 Fresno State Eugene, Ore.
Sat, Sep 15 Tennessee Tech Eugene, Ore.
Sat, Sep 22 Arizona * Eugene, Ore.
Sat, Sep 29 Washington State (CenturyLink Field)
Sat, Oct 06 Washington * Eugene, Ore.
Thu, Oct 18 Arizona State * at Tempe, Ariz.
Sat, Oct 27 Colorado * Eugene, Ore.
Sat, Nov 03 USC * at Los Angeles, Calif.
Sat, Nov 10 California * at Berkeley, Calif.
Sat, Nov 17 Stanford * Eugene, Ore.
Sat, Nov 24 Oregon State * at Corvallis, Ore.
BAMA
Sept. 1 Michigan (Cowboys Stadium)
Sept. 8 Western Kentucky
Sept. 15 @Arkansas
Sept. 22 Florida Atlantic
Sept. 29 Mississippi
Oct. 6 Open Date
Oct. 13 @Missouri
Oct. 20 @Tennessee
Oct. 27 Mississippi State
Nov. 3 @LSU
Nov. 10 Texas A&M
Nov. 17 Western Carolina
Nov. 24 Auburn
*you're right ...looks like Ducks go 12-0....then lose to USC?....or 11-1....then beat USC...??....might lose to Cal...but man that's gravy there....
Despite what Bama homers (and talking heads at ESPN say)....IMO Bama schedule not that bad....as there are really 2 challenges (big ones) in 13 weeks..
sure they might fall asleep at Tenn or Mizzou ....Michigan MAYBE....but doubtful
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#33 Posted: 1/18/2012 5:12:21 PM
they've signed some talent last few years....
4-5 star guys we didn't see much of LY..
like TE Colt Lyeria....6-5/240...fast and 40 inch vertical
RB Tra Carson....6-0/230.....5.6/rush LY...
TE Christian French....6-6/235...10.6 wtf
WR Devon Blackmon....(nation's #2 WR in 2010)
*and esp signed more size at DE and DT
bring 5 back on O....plus RB Barner (7 starts > 939 yds...6.2/rush...11 TD) .....and WR/RB Thomas (595 yds...7 TD...10.8/rush)....
3/5 OL return....59 starts
lose excellent TE Paulson and great downfield blocker in WR Tuinei...but replacements should eventually be better....Ducks downfield passing game could be MUCH better...when combined with a MUCH better running QB.....watchout?
Defense brings back 7.....and 7/11 tacklers
lose MLB Stuckey...SS Pleasant...SLB Kaddu...and DE Turner.....(# 3...4...6...7 tacklers)
Ducks rotate a lot on D...smart move by DC Aliotti in 2010.... to help keep up with offensive pace...
note > Ducks were.....and have been .....absolute gold in the 2H of games....and a big reason is their D...who almost always tightens up considerably late in games
DB > 50 starts back
LB > 13
DL > 36
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#34 Posted: 1/18/2012 9:32:27 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bookieassassin:
Despite what Bama homers (and talking heads at ESPN say)....IMO Bama schedule not that bad....as there are really 2 challenges (big ones) in 13 weeks..
sure they might fall asleep at Tenn or Mizzou ....Michigan MAYBE....but doubtful
For Bama, it is not a bad schedule. But for any other team, it is very difficult. At Arkansas and LSU are road games at top 5 caliber teams. Michigan is top 10 or 15. Missou could be top 15 or 20. A&M, Miss St, Tenn and Auburn are all 25 to 30 potentially.
Oregon has only one top 5 on the road in USC, Washington is top 15 or 25 (maybe as high as 10 if they catch some breaks) and that is in Autzen. Cal is 30-35 and is tough at home.
Season Wins = I would put Oregon at over 10.5 -150. They have a chance to beat USC and I don't see them losing more than 1 other game at worst.
Bama - over 10 -140 or over 10.5 +125. You can't put this line too high IMO because of @LSU and @Arkansas. I think they win 1 out of 2. The rest of the games they lose maybe 1 game . Always a possibility of a hangover when your BCS champs
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#35 Posted: 1/18/2012 9:39:29 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bookieassassin:
Ducks (assuming Bennett can play)...look tough..
they've signed some talent last few years....
4-5 star guys we didn't see much of LY..
like TE Colt Lyeria....6-5/240...fast and 40 inch vertical
RB Tra Carson....6-0/230.....5.6/rush LY...
TE Christian French....6-6/235...10.6 wtf
WR Devon Blackmon....(nation's #2 WR in 2010)
*and esp signed more size at DE and DT
bring 5 back on O....plus RB Barner (7 starts > 939 yds...6.2/rush...11 TD) .....and WR/RB Thomas (595 yds...7 TD...10.8/rush)....
3/5 OL return....59 starts
lose excellent TE Paulson and great downfield blocker in WR Tuinei...but replacements should eventually be better....Ducks downfield passing game could be MUCH better...when combined with a MUCH better running QB.....watchout?
Defense brings back 7.....and 7/11 tacklers
lose MLB Stuckey...SS Pleasant...SLB Kaddu...and DE Turner.....(# 3...4...6...7 tacklers)
Ducks rotate a lot on D...smart move by DC Aliotti in 2010.... to help keep up with offensive pace...
note > Ducks were.....and have been .....absolute gold in the 2H of games....and a big reason is their D...who almost always tightens up considerably late in games
DB > 50 starts back
LB > 13
DL > 36
I hope Oregon gets downgraded after losing their QB and RB. I'd love to get Oregon at +2200 to win the BCS next year, but I think this what we see for the top 5
Bama +400
LSU +500
USC +800
Arkansas +1200
Oregon +1200
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#36 Posted: 1/19/2012 1:55:13 AM
1601 Alabama +500
1602 Arkansas +1800
1603 Auburn +5000
1604 Arizona +12500
1605 Boise State +6600
1606 Boston College +20000
1607 BYU +17500
1608 California +8000
1609 Cincinnati +8000
1610 Clemson +3000
1611 Florida +5000
1612 Florida State +1500
1613 Georgia +1800
1614 Georgia Tech +15000
1615 Iowa +10000
1616 Kansas State +5000
1617 LSU +400
1618 Miami +12500
1619 Michigan +3000
1620 Michigan State +7500
1621 Missouri +10000
1622 Mississippi State +8000
1623 Nebraska +3500
1624 North Carolina +10000
1625 Notre Dame +2500
1627 Oklahoma +1000
1628 Oklahoma State +8000
1629 Oregon +1200
1630 Oregon State +25000
1631 Penn State +12500
1632 Pittsburgh +12500
1633 South Carolina +3500
1634 South Florida +12500
1635 Stanford +10000
1636 TCU +5000
1637 Tennessee +10000
1638 Texas +2800
1639 Texas A&M +12000
1640 UCLA +17500
1641 USC +1000
1642 Virginia Tech +2500
1643 Washington +10000
1644 West Virginia +3000
1645 Wisconsin +6000
1646 Field +1500
**forgot...since Kelly took over at Oregon....they've lost 1 game....when an opponent only had a week to prepare.....
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