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Author:	[Politics] Topic: Fast Forward to November 7th
wallstreetcappers	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Covers Linesmen Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 47614 Location: United States	#126 Posted: 10/7/2012 4:57:32 PM So you want people to bow to corporations more but are upset when the government does the same? That makes no sense..why as an extremist (you) would you open access to your personal habits as a citizen but be PISSED OFF when the government impedes similarly? Free market solutions cannot exist in any society..free market solutions depend on FULL and complete transparency on BOTH sides..not just you opening your home to corporations, but corporations having 100% transparency to all facets of their operations..and that will never/has never happened in the history of this country. Free Markets= buyer and seller both with full information, exchange good or service for a REASONABLE profit, with both sides making an educated decision with all information disclosed. New Zeland wool? Really? So the wool industry is akin to a coop where any person can go and inspect every and any provider of the supply to verify the quality of the product..
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All-Star Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 11950 Location: West Virginia	#127 Posted: 10/7/2012 6:52:53 PM I do not want anyone to bow to anyone wall, That is the point. Government involvement is not voluntary. It is a mandate through force of law, coercion and imprisonment. People should have the right to enter into contracts of their own free will, and not be threatened by overreaching bureaucratic government. I do not think my ideas are extreme, and I am not going to retort by saying that the dichotomy that you exhibit when you decry the corporations, but buoy the governments that facilitate their corruption is a bit neurotic to say the least. You know, because you are my elder and can ban me for name calling. You are quite the cynic to think that we can not have a freer, and more transparent marketplace. If that is truly your belief than you are right, we should probably give up all of our personal freedoms, give the government 100% reign over our lives, and livelihoods and hope that the chains of tyranny sit light on our necks. I think the solution is to punish corporate cronies, to actually attempt to fix markets, to break the bond between govt. and corporations, and to increase transparency. I think we actually agree more than we disagree.
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Covers Linesmen Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 47614 Location: United States	#128 Posted: 10/7/2012 7:22:41 PM rick, Where did I say that I buoy the government that facilitates their corruption? Are you suggesting that because I think there is no such thing as a free markets and that I blame corporations for the flaws of government then I back their actions? I am a realist that has a different opinion than you..I place the blame on corporations for the flaws of government, I think the corporations have more power and are able to beat any and all regulation or prosecution to the extent of real punishment. And spare me the I am going to ban you and that I am older than you..I havent called you any names or made anything personal outside saying you are an extremist..which I think you already know about yourself. My cynical view is that I think corporations and special interests will not and cannot be uprooted from the government, so there isnt much hope. Until the money and corporate meddling is out we cannot expect the government to act in the interests of our citizens.
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AcerRubrum	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2069 Location:	#129 Posted: 10/7/2012 10:00:20 PM My cynical view is that I think corporations and special interests will not and cannot be uprooted from the government, so there isnt much hope. Until the money and corporate meddling is out we cannot expect the government to act in the interests of our citizens.
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Covers Rehab Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 3530 Location: Greece	#130 Posted: 10/9/2012 9:50:01 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose: Oh, absolutely no doubt. But what does it say about the Republican Party that MITT ROMNEY is what they come up with as the answer??? If you don't laugh, you have to cry!!! GG Im curious, What is your prime example of an electible GOP candidate? Why is Mitt so much of a joke to you? He is not a career politician. He is a proven successful busnessman. Has enough money that he needs not take any bribes. Has worked in private sector. (Unlike Owebama) Has no anti-colonial deep seeded feelings. Thats enough for now!......
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MVP Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 15375 Location: Pennsylvania	#131 Posted: 11/8/2012 11:06:37 AM dems retained the white house dems retained the senate repubs retained the house not much seems to have changed from where i'm standing, how did your predictions pan out?
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All-Star Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10899 Location: Mongolia	#132 Posted: 11/8/2012 7:49:56 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by be easy: dems retained the white house dems retained the senate repubs retained the house not much seems to have changed from where i'm standing, how did your predictions pan out? how anyone can get excited at the prospect of more of the same is beyond me but indicative of this country's current demise
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MVP Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17981 Location: United States	#133 Posted: 11/8/2012 10:07:37 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit: GG Im curious, What is your prime example of an electible GOP candidate? Why is Mitt so much of a joke to you? He is not a career politician. He is a proven successful busnessman. Has enough money that he needs not take any bribes. Has worked in private sector. (Unlike Owebama) Has no anti-colonial deep seeded feelings. Thats enough for now!...... Chris Christie, Rand Paul, Mitch Daniels. These are REAL Republicans. They are electable Republicans. They are not the fake plastic politicians like Mitt Romney or Rick Perry or Newt Gingrich, and they are not a nerd like Rick Santorum.
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