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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:27:33 PM
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.....And, we no longer prescribe ppi's for prophylaxis as it is now known to contribute to the break down of  our "normal" flora which causes secondary infections such as Clostridium Difficile.


Guidelines for Prevention of NSAID-Related Ulcer
Complications
American College of Gastroenterology


MUCOSAL PROTECTION
Two methods are commonly employed to prevent the development
of peptic ulceration and mucosal injury in patients taking
NSAIDs: (i) co-therapy with a PPI, high-dose (2 × ) histamine-
2-receptor antagonist (H 2 RA), or the synthetic prostaglandin
E1 analog, misoprostol; and (ii) substitution of a COX-2
inhibitor for a traditional NSAID. Although co-therapy with a
standard-dose H 2 RA may prevent duodenal ulcers (50 – 54) , it
has not been shown to prevent NSAID-related gastric ulceration.
Enteric coating or buF ering of NSAIDs and co-therapy
with sucralfate have not been shown to be eF ective in preventing
NSAID-related gastric or duodenal ulceration (55 – 59) .

Proton pump inhibitors
Proton pump inhibitors have been utilized extensively as cotherapy
to prevent NSAID-induced peptic ulcers.


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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:39:06 AM

BMA, do you work for the AMA or DRUG COMPANIES,

Cause the only crap you keep posting is research from these type of sources. Do you not realize the companies selling the drugs have every reason in the world to get people like you to believe their meds will cure you?

 

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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:52:13 AM

There is no money in curing cancer, theres only money in treating it.

Cancer will never be cured until there is another disease that is as big money wise as cancer is.  Its just never ever going to happen.

Look it logically.  Our population is already getting to big, if we start curing cancer and all these people start living, instead of dying, it will put a bigger strain on the economy, thats not even including all the jobs that will be lost in the whole cancer industry. Hopsitals and research centers, along with drug companies will shut down, causing even more employment on a world that doesnt have enough as it is.

I could go on and on, about how curing cancer could actually do more harm then good, but am sure you guys can figure out the rest, if you just apply some good logical common sense.

To the people who think, no way would they hold back a cure for cancer, i say to those people, you have no clue how the world really works and how powerful money truly is.

Like i said, when they have got a disease money wise that is on par with cancer, you will see cancer cured. They more then likely already got the cure stored in vaults and are really just working on new diseases to release on mankind.  Cancers are man made, and not something thats been in our bodies forever.

I truly believe that they wanted Aids to be the disease to replace cancer, but that one didnt really pan out the way they wanted it to.

NEW MONEY DISEASE FOUND= CANCER CURED

It really is simple as that

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Posted: 8/8/2012 1:12:05 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

There is no money in curing cancer, theres only money in treating it.

Cancer will never be cured until there is another disease that is as big money wise as cancer is.  Its just never ever going to happen.

Look it logically.  Our population is already getting to big, if we start curing cancer and all these people start living, instead of dying, it will put a bigger strain on the economy, thats not even including all the jobs that will be lost in the whole cancer industry. Hopsitals and research centers, along with drug companies will shut down, causing even more employment on a world that doesnt have enough as it is.

I could go on and on, about how curing cancer could actually do more harm then good, but am sure you guys can figure out the rest, if you just apply some good logical common sense.

To the people who think, no way would they hold back a cure for cancer, i say to those people, you have no clue how the world really works and how powerful money truly is.

Like i said, when they have got a disease money wise that is on par with cancer, you will see cancer cured. They more then likely already got the cure stored in vaults and are really just working on new diseases to release on mankind.  Cancers are man made, and not something thats been in our bodies forever.

I truly believe that they wanted Aids to be the disease to replace cancer, but that one didnt really pan out the way they wanted it to.

NEW MONEY DISEASE FOUND= CANCER CURED

It really is simple as that



many cancers are genetic( hereditary)

yes many cancers are due to carcinogens that are a result of pollution by mankind

We have the sun that we depend on for life yet it is the prime cause of skin cancer, the sun is not man made.

(Skin cancer is the most common type of cancer in the United States. Each year, more than 68,000 Americans are diagnosed with melanoma, and another 48,000 are diagnosed with an early form of the disease that involves only the top layer of skin. Also, more than 2 million people are treated for basal cell or squamous cell skin cancer each year. Basal cell skin cancer is several times more common than squamous cell skin cancer.)
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Posted: 8/8/2012 1:23:34 AM
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many cancers are genetic( hereditary)

yes many cancers are due to carcinogens that are a result of pollution by mankind

We have the sun that we depend on for life yet it is the prime cause of skin cancer, the sun is not man made.

(Skin cancer is the most common type of cancer in the United States. Each year, more than 68,000 Americans are diagnosed with melanoma, and another 48,000 are diagnosed with an early form of the disease that involves only the top layer of skin. Also, more than 2 million people are treated for basal cell or squamous cell skin cancer each year. Basal cell skin cancer is several times more common than squamous cell skin cancer.)





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Posted: 8/8/2012 2:43:08 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

There is no money in curing cancer, theres only money in treating it.

Cancer will never be cured until there is another disease that is as big money wise as cancer is.  Its just never ever going to happen.

Look it logically.  Our population is already getting to big, if we start curing cancer and all these people start living, instead of dying, it will put a bigger strain on the economy, thats not even including all the jobs that will be lost in the whole cancer industry. Hopsitals and research centers, along with drug companies will shut down, causing even more employment on a world that doesnt have enough as it is.

I could go on and on, about how curing cancer could actually do more harm then good, but am sure you guys can figure out the rest, if you just apply some good logical common sense.

To the people who think, no way would they hold back a cure for cancer, i say to those people, you have no clue how the world really works and how powerful money truly is.

Like i said, when they have got a disease money wise that is on par with cancer, you will see cancer cured. They more then likely already got the cure stored in vaults and are really just working on new diseases to release on mankind.  Cancers are man made, and not something thats been in our bodies forever.

I truly believe that they wanted Aids to be the disease to replace cancer, but that one didnt really pan out the way they wanted it to.

NEW MONEY DISEASE FOUND= CANCER CURED

It really is simple as that



In the United States in 2007, approximately 10,400 children under age 15 were diagnosed with cancer and about 1,545 children will die from the disease
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On average, 1 to 2 children develop the disease each year for every 10,000 children in the United States .
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Acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL) is the most common malignancy diagnosed in children, representing nearly one third of all pediatric cancers. The annual incidence of acute lymphoblastic leukemia within the United States is 3.7-4.9 cases per 100,000 children age 0-14 years, with a peak incidence in children aged 2-5 years.

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 Overall cure rates for children with acute lymphoblastic leukemia have reached 90%. The use of risk-adapted treatment protocols has improved cure rates while limiting the toxicity of therapy


Is there anyone on this forum who would not allow their child or grandchild to have chemotherapy.


acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL)
Chemotherapy is the main treatment for ALL
 Usually, a combination of chemotherapy drugs and steroid medicines are given according to a treatment plan (often called a protocol or regimen). The treatment is given in several phases, or 'blocks',

Most children(90%) with ALL are cured. If the leukemia recurs after initial treatment, it usually does so within the first three years. Further treatment can then be given.



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Posted: 8/8/2012 2:57:35 AM

Please i have seen so many people go thru all the regular cancer treatments and they all endup dying. They spend the last 6 months of their lives in bed sick because of the treatments, instead of just living their last 6 months and letting whatever happens happen.

after the hopsitals and drug companies suck every dime they can out of cancer patients, the doctors then tell the patients, sorry but theres nothing more we can do, get your papers in order cause your gonna die.  They are nothing but money grubbing leeches.

If you want to believe cancer isnt a scam pulled on the world, thats your choice.

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Posted: 8/8/2012 3:30:58 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

Please i have seen so many people go thru all the regular cancer treatments and they all endup dying. They spend the last 6 months of their lives in bed sick because of the treatments, instead of just living their last 6 months and letting whatever happens happen.

after the hopsitals and drug companies suck every dime they can out of cancer patients, the doctors then tell the patients, sorry but theres nothing more we can do, get your papers in order cause your gonna die.  They are nothing but money grubbing leeches.

If you want to believe cancer isnt a scam pulled on the world, thats your choice.



did you miss post #31 90% of childhood ALL are cured.

That is your advice on terminal care let whatever happens happen.


The terminally ill require great care

Pain Management

Grief counseling may be needed.

Treatments for nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation

Treatment of bed sores

May be swallowing problems that need help

Breathing problems may need help, breathlessness is extremely distressing

Convulsions may happen and treatment needed.

Constant hiccough can be very distressing and requires treatment.



infections such as urinary tract or respiratory infections may need treatment

urine incontinence may require catheterization

the list can go on and one, the above are just a few

the bottom line no one should be left alone letting whatever happens happen.


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this cut/paste fake doctor schtick  is getting old... give it a rest

Go back to flooding the GD with your i.dailymail.co.uk perez hilton routine... turning other men on has become your purpose on this site... stick with whats working for ya
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QUOTE Originally Posted by dl36:

this cut/paste fake doctor schtick  is getting old... give it a rest

Go back to flooding the GD with your i.dailymail.co.uk perez hilton routine... turning other men on has become your purpose on this site... stick with whats working for ya

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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:57:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dl36:

this cut/paste fake doctor schtick  is getting old... give it a rest

Go back to flooding the GD with your i.dailymail.co.uk perez hilton routine... turning other men on has become your purpose on this site... stick with whats working for ya


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Talia was first diagnosed with with stage four neuroblastoma cancer, a tumor that develops from nerve tissue in infants and children, on Valentine's Day in 2007.

She reveals during a video: 'You don't think, "Oh my god I'm going to die". It's more like, "I'm going to lose my hair, I'm going to be skinny, I won't be able to eat, go to school, see my friends."'
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:16:10 AM
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inspiration Brave Girl


Talia was first diagnosed with with stage four neuroblastoma cancer, a tumor that develops from nerve tissue in infants and children, on Valentine's Day in 2007.

She reveals during a video: 'You don't think, "Oh my god I'm going to die". It's more like, "I'm going to lose my hair, I'm going to be skinny, I won't be able to eat, go to school, see my friends."'


she says
'This is not fair to me anymore. I'm only 13. I shouldn't have to be doing this…it's really not fair for kids to have cancer. It really frickin sucks.'

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Kudos to all you guys that know the truth about these a-hole scumbags!!!
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Posted: 8/10/2012 4:06:19 AM
The number of people living with a history of cancer in the United States continues to increase. The latest figures show that there were 11.7 million cancer survivors in 2007, up from 9.8 million in 2001 and 3 million in 1971.



"As a result of advances in early detection and treatment, cancer has become a curable disease for some and a chronic illness for others," CDC authors report



A large proportion of these cancer survivors (64.8%) lived for 5 years or more after their diagnosis, and 40.2% lived for 10 years or more. Approximately 1.1 million people (9.4%) lived with a diagnosis of cancer for 25 years or more; the majority of these survivors were female (75.4%).



The increase in the number of cancer survivors is the result of many factors, note the report authors. These include earlier detection, improved diagnostic methods, more effective treatment, improved clinical follow-up, and an aging American population.




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Posted: 8/10/2012 9:16:51 PM
I have seen chemo and radiation add months to family members with cancer. The problem is the extra time and the time they would have had left without it is miserable. They have been brutally ill, 5 of 6 over the past decade ended up with feeding tubes, bed ridden, and with zero quality of life. I already have my medical directive done and unless I were to get an extremely curable form of cancer I refuse chemo or radiation and will spend whatever time is left with family and friends and it will be quality time. 
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Posted: 8/10/2012 9:29:20 PM
You guys seem to think "cancer" is the same thing in everyone. I have some bad news for you......
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Posted: 8/12/2012 10:02:16 PM
alot of assumptions and craziness in this thread...
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Posted: 8/17/2012 6:29:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dl36:

alot of assumptions and craziness in this thread...


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