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#26 Posted: 8/5/2012 12:57:57 AM
Or are they not as important to the country as somebody swimming the backstroke in London? |
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#27 Posted: 8/5/2012 1:00:40 AM 
Maybe I should have used that 16 year old girl from swimming yesterday that won a gold...I was using Phelps as an example (a recognizable name). |
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#28 Posted: 8/5/2012 1:01:32 AM |
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#29 Posted: 8/5/2012 1:01:59 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Soldiers pay taxes unless they're actively serving in a war zone. I'm sure there are a lot of them putting their lives on the line in other parts of the world. What about the people training our soldiers? What about a CIA agent working undercover in Iran or China, should they pay taxes? What about a Dr that works on wounded soldiers returning from the Middle East?
Or are they not as important to the country as somebody swimming the backstroke in London?
Detox, like I said before...don't get to worked up over this man. Just my opinion....I get your point about military personnel. |
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#30 Posted: 8/5/2012 1:07:42 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by ad1260: Don't get to worked up there bill
Maybe I should have used that 16 year old girl from swimming yesterday that won a gold...I was using Phelps as an example (a recognizable name). Not getting worked up. I enjoy the differences of opinion. I wonder how many of the Olympians see it the same way. |
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#31 Posted: 8/5/2012 1:08:13 AM
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#33 Posted: 8/5/2012 1:22:02 AM |
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#34 Posted: 8/5/2012 7:26:18 AM I_Need_A_Detox:
Soldiers pay taxes unless they're actively serving in a war zone. I'm sure there are a lot of them putting their lives on the line in other parts of the world. What about the people training our soldiers? What about a CIA agent working undercover in Iran or China, should they pay taxes? What about a Dr that works on wounded soldiers returning from the Middle East?
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None of them should be taxed. It's really that simple... |
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#35 Posted: 8/5/2012 12:51:29 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by atlheatholder: None of them should be taxed. It's really that simple...
It's really that simple? What about the nurses that help the Dr's, and the nurses aids that help the nurses? Should they be taxed? How about the CIA workers that assist the agents that are over seas?
So exactly what government employees should be taxed? Where do you draw the line?
None of them should be taxed. It's really that simple...
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#36 Posted: 8/5/2012 1:41:52 PM I_Need_A_Detox:
It's really that simple? What about the nurses that help the Dr's, and the nurses aids that help the nurses? Should they be taxed? How about the CIA workers that assist the agents that are over seas?
So exactly what government employees should be taxed? Where do you draw the line?
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Instead of the back and forth, I'll make it real quick for everyone: Nobody should be taxed. Taxation is nothing but slavery - one who owns part of another's labor, time, wealth. And where did government employees even come into play? Most are nothing but leeches that suck off the productive unit.
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#37 Posted: 8/5/2012 1:49:54 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by atlheatholder: I_Need_A_Detox:
It's really that simple? What about the nurses that help the Dr's, and the nurses aids that help the nurses? Should they be taxed? How about the CIA workers that assist the agents that are over seas?
So exactly what government employees should be taxed? Where do you draw the line?
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Instead of the back and forth, I'll make it real quick for everyone: Nobody should be taxed. Taxation is nothing but slavery - one who owns part of another's labor, time, wealth. And where did government employees even come into play? Most are nothing but leeches that suck off the productive unit.
Good point bro. Who needs the FBI, CIA, Marines, Army, Navy, Coast Guard, Air Force, Roads, Bridges, Tunnels, public schools, police departments, fire departments.... We'd be much better off without any of that garbage.
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#38 Posted: 8/5/2012 2:08:44 PM FBI - maybe (part of it) - same for CIA
Marines, Navy, Coast Guard - yes. We can do away with the Army and A.F.
Roads, bridges, tunnels, - privatize them.
Public schools - abolish them. Parents can educate.
Police depts - abolish them. Citizens can protect themselves.
Fire depts - abolish them. Citizens can fight fires.
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#39 Posted: 8/5/2012 2:28:17 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by atlheatholder: FBI - maybe (part of it) - same for CIA
Marines, Navy, Coast Guard - yes. We can do away with the Army and A.F.
Roads, bridges, tunnels, - privatize them.
Public schools - abolish them. Parents can educate.
Police depts - abolish them. Citizens can protect themselves.
Fire depts - abolish them. Citizens can fight fires.
You're really putting a lot of thought into these plans huh? So we do need taxes under your plan to pay for part of the CIA, FBI, Marines, Navy and Coast Guard.
Your plan for roads, bridges and tunnels is privatize as if the cost just goes away. Who pays the private companies?
You want to abolish police departments. Does that mean abolish the entire criminal justice system? No police, no courts and no corrections?
And no public schools huh? That's just a waste of money and a burden on the country? You don't think the country is better off if it has citizens that are properly educated?
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#41 Posted: 8/5/2012 3:20:38 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bill702: Haha it's funny where this conversation has gone. I don't think altheatholder can be serious about the bullshit he is saying. I don't even know where to start. Part of the FBI and armed forces are the only things that could be though about. Privatizing our infrastructure is just insane.
Must admit that altheatholder did have me going for a moment... 
But common sense dictates he is just being funny. 
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#43 Posted: 8/5/2012 4:02:44 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by scalabrine: LOL at the OP and various posters, not limited to the covers community, getting upset at the government for taxing Olympians who medal, of which there are currently 49 individuals who will be taxed, many with very rich sponsorship deals or ones forthcoming for their success, in a country of 315 million, 1/2 of which live at or near the poverty line.
This is the kind of misguided rage of the delusional masses that distracts them from the deep-seated problems with the US economy and the world at large which is perfect for the corporate state while it systematically dissolves worker's rights, increases taxes on the middle-class and poor while giving tax breaks and loopholes to the rich and disenfranchises select groups.
Has there ever been a society that didnt have a delusional mass? If everyone had responsibility society would implode. Most people arent capable or willing to make decisions in their own life, let alone for the betterment of a nation.
The rich always get richer, in part because they are smarter and have inherited wealth. Just like gambling, it takes money to make money.
Workers have been dissolving their own rights for years. Unions used to keep the employee from get screwed over, and it used to work. However, it was only a matter of time before striking and shitty work practices became the norm. The union people got lazy and figured they could be greedy and lazy. Well, that was a time bomb.....
Do war heros have to pay taxes on a bronze star, a purple heart or a congretional medal of honor? I mean they earned/won them......
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#44 Posted: 8/5/2012 4:06:52 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Has there ever been a society that didnt have a delusional mass? If everyone had responsibility society would implode. Most people arent capable or willing to make decisions in their own life, let alone for the betterment of a nation. The rich always get richer, in part because they are smarter and have inherited wealth. Just like gambling, it takes money to make money. Workers have been dissolving their own rights for years. Unions used to keep the employee from get screwed over, and it used to work. However, it was only a matter of time before striking and shitty work practices became the norm. The union people got lazy and figured they could be greedy and lazy. Well, that was a time bomb..... Do war heros have to pay taxes on a bronze star, a purple heart or a congretional medal of honor? I mean they earned/won them......
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