Messages

Forum Index : Poker : Messages
Author: [Poker] Topic: High Stakes Poker Season 7 Week 2
1129ken send a private message View Space | Blog | Friends | Playbook |
1129ken
Participation Meter
Rookie
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 839
Location: United States
#1
Posted: 3/7/2011 10:58:19 PM

A few observations after watching the second week.

1. Norm really sucks at this. Right out of the box he declares a "gift" to one of the players as though there were no chance the player with the best hand would throw it away--which, of course, he does. He has no understanding that the player has a very small flush and worried about a higher one. Then, 2 minutes later, he doesn't even realize David Peat has flopped a set, declaring he's being "trapped.". Just absolutely awful.

2.Perhaps the worst player ever seen on High Stakes Poker, a fellow named " Croak ", throws away the best hand I think four times in the first 20 minutes of the show. Shortly thereafter, right before a break, he tells the dealer she's supposed to be dealing him winning hands, completely unaware that that is precisely what she has been doing.

3.Norm decides to enlighten us that normally these pros won't play poker against one another in Vegas, preferring to feed on visiting businessman. Then we have to listen to pro vs.businessman analysis far too much. Ugh.

4.Norm's analysis about " plans " and "stone-cold bluffs" and predictions about what might happen next make you wonder whether the guy has ever played poker. Make your own list of Norm's nuggets--absolute cringe-worthy analysis. They are everywhere. I have really begun to resent these people for ruining what used to be a " don't miss " hour of TV.

quote
The Giant send a private message View Space | Blog | Friends | Playbook |
The Giant
Participation Meter
Hall of Fame
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 21183
Location: California
#2
Posted: 3/7/2011 11:06:10 PM
Croak hasn't been the worst player. The worst player has been Ruffin.
He has proven that there is a ton of luck involved in poker.

I've actually enjoyed this season so far. It's a nice mix of pros versus businessmen, and really constitutes what a normal game would look like. Sometimes the fish are going to win, it's just part of the game.

Norm is a work in progress. He hasn't been great, but not awful either. Sadly, he'll never be as good as Gabe Kaplan.
quote
Steve_Holt send a private message View Space | Friends | Playbook |
Steve_Holt
Participation Meter
Banned
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1570
Location: United States
#3
Posted: 3/8/2011 12:13:52 AM
I will not tolerate Norm bashing
quote
scalabrine send a private message View Space | Blog | Friends | Playbook |
scalabrine
Participation Meter
All-Star
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14581
Location: United States
#4
Posted: 3/8/2011 8:01:33 PM

A few observations after watching the second week.

1. Norm really sucks at this. Right out of the box he declares a "gift" to one of the players as though there were no chance the player with the best hand would throw it away--which, of course, he does. He has no understanding that the player has a very small flush and worried about a higher one. Then, 2 minutes later, he doesn't even realize David Peat has flopped a set, declaring he's being "trapped.". Just absolutely awful.


Can't understand the 'trapped' comment from Norm. The show is edited. Norm made that statement after the entire season played out. Do the producers have such a minimal knowledge of poker, they can't realize Norm's comment was the complete opposite of reality? Peat flopped Trip 5's vs. KK. Peat was the one who was trapping. Makes you wonder who works backstage and how much they know about the game...


2.Perhaps the worst player ever seen on High Stakes Poker, a fellow named " Croak ", throws away the best hand I think four times in the first 20 minutes of the show. Shortly thereafter, right before a break, he tells the dealer she's supposed to be dealing him winning hands, completely unaware that that is precisely what she has been doing.

Croak is definitely up there with the worst players ever on High Stakes Poker. Although Jerry Buss gave away the most tells I've ever seen on the show, he still outplayed Croak. But what do you expect from a guy who made his millions shaping rubber bands into circus animals and what not?


3.Norm decides to enlighten us that normally these pros won't play poker against one another in Vegas, preferring to feed on visiting businessman. Then we have to listen to pro vs.businessman analysis far too much. Ugh.


This comment was particularly asinine considering the public viewing of such high stakes games, that being, THIS SHOW, was more or less dominated by pros only the previous seven seasons, playing exclusively against one another heads up in pots as the millionaire novices played nits on the sideline.


4.Norm's analysis about " plans " and "stone-cold bluffs" and predictions about what might happen next make you wonder whether the guy has ever played poker. Make your own list of Norm's nuggets--absolute cringe-worthy analysis. They are everywhere. I have really begun to resent these people for ruining what used to be a " don't miss " hour of TV.

He plays poker but clearly doesn't even approach it with the understanding Gabe did.

I really have to wonder who the hell is in charge of the show now. I know pokerstars bought the rights but did they get rid of the whole production staff from seasons 1-6? And even if they did, it's still POKERSTARS! They should know who the hell would make a good replacement if they didn't like Gabe (and what's not to like?).
quote
1129ken send a private message View Space | Blog | Friends | Playbook |
1129ken
Participation Meter
Rookie
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 839
Location: United States
#5
Posted: 3/8/2011 11:07:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by scalabrine:


A few observations after watching the second week.

1. Norm really sucks at this. Right out of the box he declares a "gift" to one of the players as though there were no chance the player with the best hand would throw it away--which, of course, he does. He has no understanding that the player has a very small flush and worried about a higher one. Then, 2 minutes later, he doesn't even realize David Peat has flopped a set, declaring he's being "trapped.". Just absolutely awful.


Can't understand the 'trapped' comment from Norm. The show is edited. Norm made that statement after the entire season played out. Do the producers have such a minimal knowledge of poker, they can't realize Norm's comment was the complete opposite of reality? Peat flopped Trip 5's vs. KK. Peat was the one who was trapping. Makes you wonder who works backstage and how much they know about the game...


2.Perhaps the worst player ever seen on High Stakes Poker, a fellow named " Croak ", throws away the best hand I think four times in the first 20 minutes of the show. Shortly thereafter, right before a break, he tells the dealer she's supposed to be dealing him winning hands, completely unaware that that is precisely what she has been doing.

Croak is definitely up there with the worst players ever on High Stakes Poker. Although Jerry Buss gave away the most tells I've ever seen on the show, he still outplayed Croak. But what do you expect from a guy who made his millions shaping rubber bands into circus animals and what not?


3.Norm decides to enlighten us that normally these pros won't play poker against one another in Vegas, preferring to feed on visiting businessman. Then we have to listen to pro vs.businessman analysis far too much. Ugh.


This comment was particularly asinine considering the public viewing of such high stakes games, that being, THIS SHOW, was more or less dominated by pros only the previous seven seasons, playing exclusively against one another heads up in pots as the millionaire novices played nits on the sideline.


4.Norm's analysis about " plans " and "stone-cold bluffs" and predictions about what might happen next make you wonder whether the guy has ever played poker. Make your own list of Norm's nuggets--absolute cringe-worthy analysis. They are everywhere. I have really begun to resent these people for ruining what used to be a " don't miss " hour of TV.

He plays poker but clearly doesn't even approach it with the understanding Gabe did.

I really have to wonder who the hell is in charge of the show now. I know pokerstars bought the rights but did they get rid of the whole production staff from seasons 1-6? And even if they did, it's still POKERSTARS! They should know who the hell would make a good replacement if they didn't like Gabe (and what's not to like?).

Appreciate your thoughts.

I'm going to watch this week with the sound off. After that, with the sound to see if there is anything of value added. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

quote
scalabrine send a private message View Space | Blog | Friends | Playbook |
scalabrine
Participation Meter
All-Star
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14581
Location: United States
#6
Posted: 3/9/2011 8:32:51 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 1129ken:

Appreciate your thoughts.

I'm going to watch this week with the sound off. After that, with the sound to see if there is anything of value added. Let's keep our fingers crossed.


Even with the sound off, they still got one thing right...bringing back Kara Scott 
quote
The Giant send a private message View Space | Blog | Friends | Playbook |
The Giant
Participation Meter
Hall of Fame
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 21183
Location: California
#7
Posted: 3/9/2011 8:52:08 AM
I still think Ruffin was the worst. His bet sizes were all off, and his calling down of David Peat was just terrifically bad, but by the pure luck of God he was right.

Croak was just a major nit.  The hand he had a flush, he probably should have led out on the river, but after he checks, and Ruffin makes a bet three times the pot, he was in a bad spot.
quote
1129ken send a private message View Space | Blog | Friends | Playbook |
1129ken
Participation Meter
Rookie
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 839
Location: United States
#8
Posted: 3/10/2011 9:34:03 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Even with the sound off, they still got one thing right...bringing back Kara Scott 
Agreed. But I'd still like Gabe's account of what happened.
quote
Johnzimbo34 send a private message View Space | Friends | Playbook |
Johnzimbo34
Participation Meter
Rookie
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 980
Location: Texas
#9
Posted: 3/12/2011 9:31:56 AM
I never could stand Norm as a "comedian"...he was a horrid choice for this job. Bring back Gabe!!
quote
scalabrine send a private message View Space | Blog | Friends | Playbook |
scalabrine
Participation Meter
All-Star
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14581
Location: United States
#10
Posted: 3/12/2011 8:24:27 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by The Giant:

Croak hasn't been the worst player. The worst player has been Ruffin.
He has proven that there is a ton of luck involved in poker.

I've actually enjoyed this season so far. It's a nice mix of pros versus businessmen, and really constitutes what a normal game would look like. Sometimes the fish are going to win, it's just part of the game.

Norm is a work in progress. He hasn't been great, but not awful either. Sadly, he'll never be as good as Gabe Kaplan.

Croak is the worst thus far. He's the Millionaire inventor of Silly Bands and looks like he know little to nothing about poker, nevermind high stakes poker.

I'm sure Ruffin has more than enough horrible play in him to make your point legitimate though.
quote
zooyorkinc send a private message View Space | Friends | Playbook |
zooyorkinc
Participation Meter
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1328
Location:
#11
Posted: 3/12/2011 9:46:02 PM
Croak has no business at that table. 
quote
fatjack2 send a private message View Space | Friends | Playbook |
fatjack2
Participation Meter
Prospect
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 111
Location: Arkansas
#12
Posted: 3/13/2011 9:13:08 PM
in this the new season? and is it still on sundays at 7 on gsn??
quote
1129ken send a private message View Space | Blog | Friends | Playbook |
1129ken
Participation Meter
Rookie
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 839
Location: United States
#13
Posted: 3/13/2011 10:37:50 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by fatjack2:

in this the new season? and is it still on sundays at 7 on gsn??

Yes--new season. Saturday at 8PM on GSN ( repeated at 11PM on Saturday ).

quote
runlagos send a private message View Space | Blog | Friends | Playbook |
runlagos
Participation Meter
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2897
Location: Pennsylvania
#14
Posted: 3/14/2011 7:13:56 AM
Didn't even bother to watch week 2. Absolutely friggin terrible.
quote
dillon24 send a private message View Space | Blog | Friends | Playbook |
dillon24
Participation Meter
Captain
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 8907
Location: Netherlands
#15
Posted: 3/14/2011 11:04:47 PM
I actually think norm is a step up
quote
Forum Index : Poker : Messages
You have entered the forum as a GUEST. 
You must login/register to post or reply.