High Stakes Poker Season 7 Week 2

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Posted: 3/7/2011 10:58:19 PM

A few observations after watching the second week.

1. Norm really sucks at this. Right out of the box he declares a "gift" to one of the players as though there were no chance the player with the best hand would throw it away--which, of course, he does. He has no understanding that the player has a very small flush and worried about a higher one. Then, 2 minutes later, he doesn't even realize David Peat has flopped a set, declaring he's being "trapped.". Just absolutely awful.

2.Perhaps the worst player ever seen on High Stakes Poker, a fellow named " Croak ", throws away the best hand I think four times in the first 20 minutes of the show. Shortly thereafter, right before a break, he tells the dealer she's supposed to be dealing him winning hands, completely unaware that that is precisely what she has been doing.

3.Norm decides to enlighten us that normally these pros won't play poker against one another in Vegas, preferring to feed on visiting businessman. Then we have to listen to pro vs.businessman analysis far too much. Ugh.

4.Norm's analysis about " plans " and "stone-cold bluffs" and predictions about what might happen next make you wonder whether the guy has ever played poker. Make your own list of Norm's nuggets--absolute cringe-worthy analysis. They are everywhere. I have really begun to resent these people for ruining what used to be a " don't miss " hour of TV.

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Posted: 3/7/2011 11:06:10 PM
Croak hasn't been the worst player. The worst player has been Ruffin.
He has proven that there is a ton of luck involved in poker.

I've actually enjoyed this season so far. It's a nice mix of pros versus businessmen, and really constitutes what a normal game would look like. Sometimes the fish are going to win, it's just part of the game.

Norm is a work in progress. He hasn't been great, but not awful either. Sadly, he'll never be as good as Gabe Kaplan.
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Posted: 3/8/2011 12:13:52 AM
I will not tolerate Norm bashing
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Posted: 3/8/2011 8:01:33 PM

A few observations after watching the second week.

1. Norm really sucks at this. Right out of the box he declares a "gift" to one of the players as though there were no chance the player with the best hand would throw it away--which, of course, he does. He has no understanding that the player has a very small flush and worried about a higher one. Then, 2 minutes later, he doesn't even realize David Peat has flopped a set, declaring he's being "trapped.". Just absolutely awful.


Can't understand the 'trapped' comment from Norm. The show is edited. Norm made that statement after the entire season played out. Do the producers have such a minimal knowledge of poker, they can't realize Norm's comment was the complete opposite of reality? Peat flopped Trip 5's vs. KK. Peat was the one who was trapping. Makes you wonder who works backstage and how much they know about the game...


2.Perhaps the worst player ever seen on High Stakes Poker, a fellow named " Croak ", throws away the best hand I think four times in the first 20 minutes of the show. Shortly thereafter, right before a break, he tells the dealer she's supposed to be dealing him winning hands, completely unaware that that is precisely what she has been doing.

Croak is definitely up there with the worst players ever on High Stakes Poker. Although Jerry Buss gave away the most tells I've ever seen on the show, he still outplayed Croak. But what do you expect from a guy who made his millions shaping rubber bands into circus animals and what not?


3.Norm decides to enlighten us that normally these pros won't play poker against one another in Vegas, preferring to feed on visiting businessman. Then we have to listen to pro vs.businessman analysis far too much. Ugh.


This comment was particularly asinine considering the public viewing of such high stakes games, that being, THIS SHOW, was more or less dominated by pros only the previous seven seasons, playing exclusively against one another heads up in pots as the millionaire novices played nits on the sideline.


4.Norm's analysis about " plans " and "stone-cold bluffs" and predictions about what might happen next make you wonder whether the guy has ever played poker. Make your own list of Norm's nuggets--absolute cringe-worthy analysis. They are everywhere. I have really begun to resent these people for ruining what used to be a " don't miss " hour of TV.

He plays poker but clearly doesn't even approach it with the understanding Gabe did.

I really have to wonder who the hell is in charge of the show now. I know pokerstars bought the rights but did they get rid of the whole production staff from seasons 1-6? And even if they did, it's still POKERSTARS! They should know who the hell would make a good replacement if they didn't like Gabe (and what's not to like?).
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Posted: 3/8/2011 11:07:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by scalabrine:


A few observations after watching the second week.

1. Norm really sucks at this. Right out of the box he declares a "gift" to one of the players as though there were no chance the player with the best hand would throw it away--which, of course, he does. He has no understanding that the player has a very small flush and worried about a higher one. Then, 2 minutes later, he doesn't even realize David Peat has flopped a set, declaring he's being "trapped.". Just absolutely awful.


Can't understand the 'trapped' comment from Norm. The show is edited. Norm made that statement after the entire season played out. Do the producers have such a minimal knowledge of poker, they can't realize Norm's comment was the complete opposite of reality? Peat flopped Trip 5's vs. KK. Peat was the one who was trapping. Makes you wonder who works backstage and how much they know about the game...


2.Perhaps the worst player ever seen on High Stakes Poker, a fellow named " Croak ", throws away the best hand I think four times in the first 20 minutes of the show. Shortly thereafter, right before a break, he tells the dealer she's supposed to be dealing him winning hands, completely unaware that that is precisely what she has been doing.

Croak is definitely up there with the worst players ever on High Stakes Poker. Although Jerry Buss gave away the most tells I've ever seen on the show, he still outplayed Croak. But what do you expect from a guy who made his millions shaping rubber bands into circus animals and what not?


3.Norm decides to enlighten us that normally these pros won't play poker against one another in Vegas, preferring to feed on visiting businessman. Then we have to listen to pro vs.businessman analysis far too much. Ugh.


This comment was particularly asinine considering the public viewing of such high stakes games, that being, THIS SHOW, was more or less dominated by pros only the previous seven seasons, playing exclusively against one another heads up in pots as the millionaire novices played nits on the sideline.


4.Norm's analysis about " plans " and "stone-cold bluffs" and predictions about what might happen next make you wonder whether the guy has ever played poker. Make your own list of Norm's nuggets--absolute cringe-worthy analysis. They are everywhere. I have really begun to resent these people for ruining what used to be a " don't miss " hour of TV.

He plays poker but clearly doesn't even approach it with the understanding Gabe did.

I really have to wonder who the hell is in charge of the show now. I know pokerstars bought the rights but did they get rid of the whole production staff from seasons 1-6? And even if they did, it's still POKERSTARS! They should know who the hell would make a good replacement if they didn't like Gabe (and what's not to like?).

Appreciate your thoughts.

I'm going to watch this week with the sound off. After that, with the sound to see if there is anything of value added. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

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Posted: 3/9/2011 8:32:51 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 1129ken:

Appreciate your thoughts.

I'm going to watch this week with the sound off. After that, with the sound to see if there is anything of value added. Let's keep our fingers crossed.


Even with the sound off, they still got one thing right...bringing back Kara Scott 
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Posted: 3/9/2011 8:52:08 AM
I still think Ruffin was the worst. His bet sizes were all off, and his calling down of David Peat was just terrifically bad, but by the pure luck of God he was right.

Croak was just a major nit.  The hand he had a flush, he probably should have led out on the river, but after he checks, and Ruffin makes a bet three times the pot, he was in a bad spot.
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Posted: 3/10/2011 9:34:03 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Even with the sound off, they still got one thing right...bringing back Kara Scott 
Agreed. But I'd still like Gabe's account of what happened.
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Posted: 3/12/2011 9:31:56 AM
I never could stand Norm as a "comedian"...he was a horrid choice for this job. Bring back Gabe!!
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Posted: 3/12/2011 8:24:27 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by The Giant:

Croak hasn't been the worst player. The worst player has been Ruffin.
He has proven that there is a ton of luck involved in poker.

I've actually enjoyed this season so far. It's a nice mix of pros versus businessmen, and really constitutes what a normal game would look like. Sometimes the fish are going to win, it's just part of the game.

Norm is a work in progress. He hasn't been great, but not awful either. Sadly, he'll never be as good as Gabe Kaplan.

Croak is the worst thus far. He's the Millionaire inventor of Silly Bands and looks like he know little to nothing about poker, nevermind high stakes poker.

I'm sure Ruffin has more than enough horrible play in him to make your point legitimate though.
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Posted: 3/12/2011 9:46:02 PM
Croak has no business at that table. 
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Posted: 3/13/2011 9:13:08 PM
in this the new season? and is it still on sundays at 7 on gsn??
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Posted: 3/13/2011 10:37:50 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by fatjack2:

in this the new season? and is it still on sundays at 7 on gsn??

Yes--new season. Saturday at 8PM on GSN ( repeated at 11PM on Saturday ).

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Posted: 3/14/2011 7:13:56 AM
Didn't even bother to watch week 2. Absolutely friggin terrible.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 11:04:47 PM
I actually think norm is a step up
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