dangers of a gop win

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Posted: 8/3/2012 2:12:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

IMO it would be much better for the country to have the republicans control all 3 branches...things will finally get done for the better.

The Republicans will cut spending, shrink the government, start paying off the debt to bring the deficit down and eventually balance the budget, not raise taxes, repeal obama care and a host of other initiatives to get this country economically vibrant again. 





I mean the GOP/teaparty have all the right ideas and do all the right things... plus everything they have ever touched is golden and successful...

The only agenda of Dem/liberals is to single handed destroy the country and everything that they have ever endorsed or tried has been a failure... like a kiss of death...

I have absolutely no fears about a GOP dictatorship running the USA as they do everything perfectly and have best interest of the country and it citizens... I mean at least that is what history has shown us

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Posted: 8/3/2012 3:02:20 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dl36:





I mean the GOP/teaparty have all the right ideas and do all the right things... plus everything they have ever touched is golden and successful...

The only agenda of Dem/liberals is to single handed destroy the country and everything that they have ever endorsed or tried has been a failure... like a kiss of death...

I have absolutely no fears about a GOP dictatorship running the USA as they do everything perfectly and have best interest of the country and it citizens... I mean at least that is what history has shown us


glad youve seen the light
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Posted: 8/3/2012 3:53:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan:

Selkooth.. Why would an intelligent person like you display such a crude and immature avatar ?


Slim with the checkmate!

Ein gutes Wochenende haben, Don.
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Posted: 8/3/2012 6:24:27 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kaponofor3:




Divided government is a good thing, not a bad thing. I'd rather have gridlock in Washington than unanimity any day of the week. The less damage those idiots can do, the better

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Posted: 8/3/2012 7:20:52 PM

Quote Posted by kapono:

Divided government is a good thing, not a bad thing. I'd rather have gridlock in Washington than unanimity any day of the week. The less damage those idiots can do, the better
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Anything divided cannot be a good thing, anything in harmony...well now that is a good thing...capiche?

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Posted: 8/4/2012 3:45:03 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

IMO it would be much better for the country to have the republicans control all 3 branches...things will finally get done for the better.

The Republicans will cut spending, shrink the government, start paying off the debt to bring the deficit down and eventually balance the budget, not raise taxes, repeal obama care and a host of other initiatives to get this country economically vibrant again. 



Great post, SJD... I think you are spot on.  
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Posted: 8/4/2012 4:26:45 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by drJ:

All three spots contolled by one party has some benefits in this partisan scene....and some seriously scary possibilities. What are your fears?


For starters, we've all seen what happens when Obama and the Dems in Congress had the keys to the economy for two years.  He and his crooked cronies in Congress (thank you Pelosi) gave us Obamacare and "accelerated" debt.  By any metric you want to use (Debt, Deficit, Debt/GDP, etc.)... the numbers are truly staggering on where this country is going and how this administration has "accelerated" our fiscal problems in 3-1/2 years.

What scares me is I don't think Obama cares one bit about the fiscal problems this country faces.    I've said it in other threads...

Obama's goal is a country of equal "outcome"..  Income equality... however you want to call it .  (carefully note the above does not read equal "opportunity")
 Obamacare is just one-piece to that puzzle that helps achieve this goal.    What are the other pieces to the puzzle in his 2nd term ?



Long story short, if Repubs don't win Presidency, House, and Senate.. we truly will go off a fiscal cliff.  





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Posted: 8/4/2012 7:24:20 AM
@post 20-Selkooth
I had to reread that post several times. I am actually shocked at that assertion. The idea that Republicans would have stronger leverage over NATO countries displays a surprising ignorance of political history for a person of your intellectual caliber.
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Posted: 8/4/2012 4:10:45 PM
Sir John,

What evidence has the GOP given the country that the will follow the plan you have suggested?
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Posted: 8/4/2012 4:11:13 PM
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Posted: 8/5/2012 7:04:39 AM

@djbrow

Walk with me, friend.

Washington wants Europe to absorb greater NATO costs, but there is minor incentive for Europe to raise their military expenditure. The expenditure of the European member states is already more than seven times greater than Moscow’s defense budget. The collective security of European member states (excluding Westminster) is more cost effective when accomplished in collaboration with Moscow rather than to thrust the old enemy into the background, destabilize the relationship between its politics and territory or compromise its defences. The veracity is that Europe is deficient of motive to devote additional considerable funds towards committing itself to undefined nation-building missions under the pretext of humanitarian intervention - despite which faction of American democracy resides in the White House. Neither a Democrat nor Republican administration can guarantee more involvement from European member states outside of NATO’s core operation - mutual assurance for the security of alliance members. The transformation of NATO’s role as global sheriff has been terminated. NATO’s eventual dissolution is inevitable. The line of demarcation between Washington and Berlin is becoming more distinct.

Militarized expansion is substandard in annexing the treasures as it previously did. The connection between territory and wealth has been severed. However building bilateral partnerships with lucrative must-have-economies such as Indonesia to ease the path for commercial interests is paramount. However these nations steadfastly acquire military appetites and make considerable investment in significant warfare capabilities, such as seeking to obtain German Leopard 2 Combat tanks. They may not want conflict but they do want tranquillity and regional status. Especially in South-East Asia where there are scores of territorial disputes.

Nations may well be agents of trade, but in the past commerce has not determined everything. Commerce is no confirmatory assurance of harmony. Neither is the nuclear deterrence theory, but collectively they encompass an effect on political disposition, which portend; international confrontation would probably be brought about by a solitary mishandled regional crisis or the ambiguity of an event that elicits affliction rather than by architectural design.

The salient nations are less pugnacious with each other from times past when the White House and the Kremlin faced each other as “superpowers,” dividing the map into aggressive blocs held together by the threat of nuclear warfare. However they still inhabit deep insecurity. The international community may be in for a cycle of competitive engagement, within narrow confines, for alliances, global pivots and resources. We may witness the perils of fierce altercations, followed by drawbacks and the easing of international tension. In a prolonged array of geopolitical theatres, it is a necessity that a nation maintains a subtle equilibrium of cooperation and rivalry with immense skill. The short-term could provide a phase where salient nations stare each other down in a manner that brings forth constant whispers of war as a shell to a turbulent, but serene core. We should fear war - not its propaganda.

Salient nations use a medium of tools and techniques to achieve foreign policy objectives devoid of the use of weaponry but by exerting information and other agents of sway. The methods are becoming more prevalent to cultivate and incite fanatical and separatist mind-sets, to manipulate the public and to guide direct intrusion in the domestic policy of autonomous nations, as seen in the proxy warfare in Damascus. And what about the world-wide-web, that inescapable cutting edge piece of technology that has limitless possibilities to reinvent itself and knows no governmental boundaries – how does this alter the concept of unarmed warfare to control its innovative potential for intergovernmental hegemony.

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Posted: 8/5/2012 7:08:53 AM

double post.

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Posted: 8/5/2012 9:12:56 AM

QUOTE Originally Posted by selkooth :

double post.

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No problem ..djb will have to reread that post several times anyway ,,,

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Posted: 8/5/2012 9:29:37 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

QUOTE Originally Posted by selkooth :

double post.

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No problem ..djb will have to reread that post several times anyway ,,,



must take awhile for msnbc to email him his reply
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:30:58 PM
I am of the mind that our fiscal issues cannot be addressed in a bipartisan fashion.  neither side has the willingness to put our country over their own interests.
im positive something very very different from the current fiasco will happen under a gop controlled country.  whether its a brilliant clean up or a cronyism filled fiasco is to be seen.  some of both is possible
obama got his keys, crashed the car, and wants to hand the blame off and get another car that he will drive exactly the same way and expect a different result.  no thanks.

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