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#26 Posted: 7/21/2012 10:53:48 AM I think the players care... I just wonder if Nadal isn't focused on being the best ever. In the past his camp has set goals...win wimby...win US Open....and they accomplished both. If Nadal is ever going to be the best he needs to win the US Open again. Sure he might be injured...but part of me says he is recharging to make a run in New York
One of the reasons for upsets in the Olympics is the format.Best of 3 creates more upsets over best of 5. Keep in mind that Novak and Roger would have been ousted if Wimby was best of 3. Also the distractions are many at the Olympics. The Olympics is an experience...players walk in the opening ceremonies and often like to interact with other people and watch other events. This is alot different from a players normal routine
Roger certainly wants the individual gold medal. He wants it for his legacy but really wants his daughters to see him on the podium as an individual gold medalist and watcth the Swiss flag raise.
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#27 Posted: 7/21/2012 10:54:20 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by gridironguy:
yes, fed won a DOUBLES gold with stanislaus, but i am talking about SINGLES
yes, agassi the only real name player who has won an olympic gold in singles,
kafelnikov had 2 slam wins in his career, he just a small step up from gonzo in that regard
the top players do not care about the olympics, they say they do, they have to say they do, but they do not,
the historical results reflect this quite clearly
so, why does a doubles gold medal not show that a player cares?
& kafelnikov is a small step up from gonzo? dude, lay off the crack & stop believing your own drivel.
THE TWO GUYS WITH THE MOST SLAMS (FED AND SAMPRAS WITH 31 COMBINED) HAVE A GRAND TOTAL OF ZERO MEDALS NOT EVEN GETTING A BRONZE
enough said.
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#28 Posted: 7/21/2012 11:03:14 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by sparty444: I think the players care... I just wonder if Nadal isn't focused on being the best ever. In the past his camp has set goals...win wimby...win US Open....and they accomplished both. If Nadal is ever going to be the best he needs to win the US Open again. Sure he might be injured...but part of me says he is recharging to make a run in New York
One of the reasons for upsets in the Olympics is the format.Best of 3 creates more upsets over best of 5. Keep in mind that Novak and Roger would have been ousted if Wimby was best of 3. Also the distractions are many at the Olympics. The Olympics is an experience...players walk in the opening ceremonies and often like to interact with other people and watch other events. This is alot different from a players normal routine
Roger certainly wants the individual gold medal. He wants it for his legacy but really wants his daughters to see him on the podium as an individual gold medalist and watcth the Swiss flag raise.
Well said, especially regarding his daughters being old enough to watch him play  |
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#29 Posted: 7/21/2012 12:44:44 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by sparty444: I think the players care... I just wonder if Nadal isn't focused on being the best ever. In the past his camp has set goals...win wimby...win US Open....and they accomplished both. If Nadal is ever going to be the best he needs to win the US Open again. Sure he might be injured...but part of me says he is recharging to make a run in New York
One of the reasons for upsets in the Olympics is the format.Best of 3 creates more upsets over best of 5. Keep in mind that Novak and Roger would have been ousted if Wimby was best of 3. Also the distractions are many at the Olympics. The Olympics is an experience...players walk in the opening ceremonies and often like to interact with other people and watch other events. This is alot different from a players normal routine
Roger certainly wants the individual gold medal. He wants it for his legacy but really wants his daughters to see him on the podium as an individual gold medalist and watcth the Swiss flag raise.
Sparty, if Wimbledon was best of 3, then Joker and Fed would have never let themselves be down 2 sets to 0 or 2 sets to 1,
they would have been focused from the GET GO, not letting their opponent take a lead like that,
one of the main reasons the players do not care much about the Olympics that there is LITTLE money to be made for pro tennis players even if they do win a gold,
they know their paychecks and their legacies depend on how many tourneys they do well in, especially the majors
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#30 Posted: 7/21/2012 12:55:14 PM  <------- gridiron
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#31 Posted: 7/21/2012 1:21:12 PM  .. this guy gridiron is just an idiot I don't know why we even respond to him anymore. You can also bet your behind Novak cares after the Davis Cup propelled his career. And like the one guy said maybe the prize money isn't good but the endorsement money that can be made is through the roof, just look at michael phelps, every top tennis player has said they want to win federer multiple times, do you think they are all lying? but they all met and agreed its just a big show lets all lie and act like we care but deep inside we don't |
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#32 Posted: 7/21/2012 1:32:57 PM |
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#33 Posted: 7/21/2012 1:40:10 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Professional1:
Interesting debate I can see grids point if u go by past winners but players do care some more than others and as sparty said distractions and the format are factors.
exactly. the proof is in the pudding.
the 2 greatest singles players of our era and perhaps history, who were both in their prime for not one but TWO olympic years, yet NEITHER can even win a bronze in singles?
Fed and Sampras can say whatever they want.
the Olympics matter less to them than even the hardcourt tourneys in August
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#34 Posted: 7/21/2012 1:51:20 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by gridironguy:
exactly. the proof is in the pudding.the 2 greatest singles players of our era and perhaps history, who were both in their prime for not one but TWO olympic years, yet NEITHER can even win a bronze in singles?Fed and Sampras can say whatever they want.the Olympics matter less to them than even the hardcourt tourneys in August
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#37 Posted: 7/21/2012 3:38:53 PM |
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#38 Posted: 7/21/2012 9:06:48 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cowboys173418:
I bet if you asked sampras about the most disappointing thing about his career Im tempted to say he would say not winning an olympic gold metal
if he said that it would only be because it is politically correct, and old petey is afraid to be controversial or eccentric,
if he was put on a lie detector test, he would tell the truth, which is that he never won the CAREER SLAM because of never winning the French, in fact he never even made the finals and made the semis just once,
you think Ivan Lendl's biggest regret is not winning olympic gold?
no effing way,
it's the fact he never won Wimbledon,
this is all factual, i'm not saying they do not care at all about at least playing in the olympics and having a decent outing,
i'm saying it is low on their priorities, even lower than the claycourt tuneups in madrid, rome, monte carlo, and the hardcourt tuneups in august,
those tourneys mean more because THEY PAY MORE and help their rankings.
all factual stuff here,
let's see of Fed and Joker both place in the top 3 with Rafa out now
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#39 Posted: 7/22/2012 4:53:13 AM |
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#40 Posted: 7/22/2012 5:46:14 AM |
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#41 Posted: 7/22/2012 1:46:33 PM
we'll see if fed and/or joker make the gold medal match.
i will be extremely surprised if both are there,
and quite surprised still if either guy takes the gold,
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#42 Posted: 7/22/2012 1:56:59 PM
the usa basketball team lost in 88 with college players, that's why the dream team was born,
as americans, we view basketball as OUR SPORT because it was invented in America,
we Americans dont have that same pride about tennis, soccer, etc
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#43 Posted: 7/22/2012 2:15:24 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by gridironguy:
as americans, we view basketball as OUR SPORT because it was invented in America,
we Americans dont have that same pride about tennis, soccer, etc
Basketball was not invented in america, and if any sport is truly viewed as "your sport" it's NFL football, and it's only popular due to gambling over the past 10 years.
You should always use more colors and caps lock when you post,,,it helps mask how truly ignorant you really are, all the while pretending to be so smart.
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#44 Posted: 8/2/2012 1:34:13 PM
i was wrong (this time) about whether the players would give full focus
and effort, but it's apparent they are all gunning for the gold,
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#45 Posted: 8/2/2012 1:45:40 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by sparty444: I think the players care... I just wonder if Nadal isn't focused on being the best ever
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#46 Posted: 8/3/2012 11:55:50 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by packersbackers: Espn sources 
Roger/djoker final,,,,see you in the finals,,,the rest of the matches have been cancelled,,,no bronze will be even played for
very nice pick taking FED, when considering how poorly the favorites have fared historically, in the Olympics.
i am rooting for Andy v Djoker, but won't mind at all if Djoker wins to give us a dream Gold medal match on Sunday morning,
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#47 Posted: 8/3/2012 12:52:33 PM |
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#48 Posted: 8/3/2012 1:09:16 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by mdcrazy23:
Just to add to the conversation a bit. Back in Sampras days rankings points werent awarded at the Olympics. That started in 2004 which might be why it was viewed as a glorified exhibition back then. Also the winner only gets 750 points which is less than the Masters 1000 events. I think it took some time for the Olympics to become important to the top players but we're there now. Not to mention the fact that its Wimbledon makes this the most special Olympic tennis tournament ever. One final point-Nadal won it in 08. You think Roger or Novak want Rafa having that over them? Hell no.
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