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Posted: 3/21/2012 3:23:09 AM
8oz gloves is the deal, Floyd will slice up that thin Puerto Rican face.  Cotto is not as big nor as fast as Ortiz.  Ortix was a 165lb young tank inside the ring and Floyd was 149 lbs walking and breaking him down.  There's is absolutely no way a short armed, bad stamina, no defense, no head movement, flat footed,  one armed fighter can last the distance Floyd, NONE.  He will get beatdown any way he tries to fight.  
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Posted: 3/21/2012 4:10:20 AM
Dawson/B-Hop Post by Jerseyboy89 (COPY??)
GO POUND A 40oz OF ST.IDES WITH HOLT. BESIDES STUPID COMMENTS, THE JOKE IS ALL YOUR GOOF FOR. YOU GOT CAUGHT IN A TOTAL LIE, THINKING YOU CAN YOUTUBE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT SHOWED PEOPLE DRINKING AND FIGHTING IN THE STREETS FROM THE PREVIOUS WEEK. GREAT YOUTUBE WORK!!! ONLY YOU DIDN'T KNOW HOLT DIDN'T LIVE IN THAT AREA, AND THAT HE WAS TRAINING A BLOCK AT THE ACADEMY AND FELT THE STRONGEST IN HIS CAREER!

ALSO, THE ONLY TIME YOU DID A ANALYSIS, BESIDES... "HEY DUDES, POUND IT, IT'S MONEY!" , WAS THE TIME YOU COPIED ME ALMOST WORD FOR WORD... REFRESHER.

My post at 6PM : I think Dawson is to young and athletic (and fundamentally good) and will be to busy for B-Hop. Similar to B-hop vs Taylor except that Dawson is a much better fighter and has good stamina, Hopkins is a pound-for-pound great and already a legend, but this fight I say Dawson wins around 8 or 9 rounds to win a decision.
Your post at 11PM (and created a new thread): last time he face someone as fast and athletic was taylor....dawson is twice the fighter taylor was.  dawson has a high punch output...bernard won't be able to do much this fight...i see this an easy 8-4 for dawson

Your only analysis (and it was accurate without the...YO, POUND IT HOMESLICE!. I gave you the benefit of the doubt as it was maybe a totally freak chance of 1 in a million (or more) to not ever post any analysis with technical assessment, then 5 hours later make your own thread and bring out the 4 KEY POINTS I did!!!!

http://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101143110

There are people with no credibility... at least you are consistent in being a total joke, and when you want to make a real analysis, you copy. Next time just go to ESPN and copy a writer's pick so we'd never know (LOL).

1.last time he face someone as fast and athletic was taylor
(mine:Similar to B-hop vs Taylor except that Dawson is a much better fighter)
2.dawson is twice the fighter taylor was
(mine: Similar to B-hop vs Taylor except that Dawson is a much better fighter)
3.dawson has a high punch output
(mine:I think Dawson is to young and athletic (and fundamentally good) and will be to busy for B-Hop)
4.i see this an easy 8-4 for dawson
(mine: Dawson wins around 8 or 9 rounds to win a decision)

Besides your stupid posts, I really hope you are a 14 year old kid (and my apologies if you are a baby-boy), because any adult that speaks like you definitely needs education (as he is just a grown baby-boy). I will close it after we caught you lying about HOLT... now we know my post about you being a COPY-CAT is TRUE!

Dawson/B-Hop Post by Jerseyboy89 (COPY??)

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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:52:19 AM
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8oz gloves is the deal, Floyd will slice up that thin Puerto Rican face.  Cotto is not as big nor as fast as Ortiz.  Ortix was a 165lb young tank inside the ring and Floyd was 149 lbs walking and breaking him down.  There's is absolutely no way a short armed, bad stamina, no defense, no head movement, flat footed,  one armed fighter can last the distance Floyd, NONE.  He will get beatdown any way he tries to fight.  

although i dont agree with many of your plays, the request by pbf to fight with 8 ounce gloves may lead one to believe that hes going for a ko. imo, a fighter with the superior skillset would want the heavier gloves to limit the chance and effect of a lucky punch(the reason why there are more upsets in mma as opposed to boxing) as the longer a fight goes on the less chance the inferior fighter has of winning.

perhaps pbf is betting on the ko and has gotten the idea from froch.

there is absolutley no way i would bet pbf decision. imo, i think he couldve kod mosely if he wanted to(he gave him a free pass) and that version of mosely is much better than this current version of cotto.

 

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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:19:29 PM
Floyd wants the 8oz for one reason I can see. I stated that contrary to many people, Cotto is at his best now as he effectively applied his new defensive skills and with proper fundamentals. This is impressive even against MargaCheeto, as most fighters can't make major fighting changes. Floyd, regardless of his statement that he never watches other fighters of film would be false IMO because of the statement I am going to make.
Floyd recognized the use of 8oz by Cotto in his previous fights.
The main reason is Floyd problems with his hands. He realizes, as the public doesn't, that Cotto has gained much experience and has adjusted his style enough to make it much more difficult for most fighters, but not likely for Mayweather. The problem is if Floyd has to use 10oz gloves, he will have to punch with more force and land more shots to be effective against Cotto. With an 8oz glove, he can throw a punch at 70% maximum, and not risk damage to his hands.
Now, one might think that having the bigger glove would help keep Floyd's hand safer, but not if he has to generate a punch with much greater force.
He wants to be able to free-style, and not worry about throwing bigger shots, as he knows Cotto is a tough man, and he will want to set his pace. This can only be done when Floyd lands his shots at will.
The smaller gloves provides barely any increased protection due to the fact he will have to throw punches of greater force and more likely to hurt or injure his hands.
I'm curious if Cotto's corner will request a test for xylocaine the night of the fight, as it is considered illegal when used from 1 week prior to the fight and the night of the fight.
I've seen replies regarding that people say Floyd also has to feel the punch of an 8oz glove... that's true, but hitting him with a clean hard shot has been difficult for most!
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Posted: 3/21/2012 2:44:32 PM

The decision for Floyd to use the 8 oz. gloves couldn't have been as easy as some may think.

On one hand you have a guy (Cotto) who has been known to cut, bruise and swell very easily, but on the other hand, it's no secret that Floyd has had tremendous trouble with his own hands over the past couple years. There is MUCH less protection in the Reyes "punchers" gloves.

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Posted: 3/21/2012 10:36:38 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ZOUK:

Floyd wants the 8oz for one reason I can see. I stated that contrary to many people, Cotto is at his best now as he effectively applied his new defensive skills and with proper fundamentals. This is impressive even against MargaCheeto, as most fighters can't make major fighting changes. Floyd, regardless of his statement that he never watches other fighters of film would be false IMO because of the statement I am going to make.

Floyd recognized the use of 8oz by Cotto in his previous fights.
The main reason is Floyd problems with his hands. He realizes, as the public doesn't, that Cotto has gained much experience and has adjusted his style enough to make it much more difficult for most fighters, but not likely for Mayweather. The problem is if Floyd has to use 10oz gloves, he will have to punch with more force and land more shots to be effective against Cotto. With an 8oz glove, he can throw a punch at 70% maximum, and not risk damage to his hands.
Now, one might think that having the bigger glove would help keep Floyd's hand safer, but not if he has to generate a punch with much greater force.
He wants to be able to free-style, and not worry about throwing bigger shots, as he knows Cotto is a tough man, and he will want to set his pace. This can only be done when Floyd lands his shots at will.
The smaller gloves provides barely any increased protection due to the fact he will have to throw punches of greater force and more likely to hurt or injure his hands.
I'm curious if Cotto's corner will request a test for xylocaine the night of the fight, as it is considered illegal when used from 1 week prior to the fight and the night of the fight.
I've seen replies regarding that people say Floyd also has to feel the punch of an 8oz glove... that's true, but hitting him with a clean hard shot has been difficult for most!

8 oz is official, read up.  Floyd no longer has problems with his hands, his retirement let him heal his body and was the main reason for his retirement.  Floyd was walking down a young tank in Ortiz and since his retirment he has changed his style and is now sitting down on his punches more frequently.  

There is no way Cotto can go the distance with Floyd, NONE
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Posted: 3/22/2012 8:55:35 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:


8 oz is official, read up.  Floyd no longer has problems with his hands, his retirement let him heal his body and was the main reason for his retirement.  Floyd was walking down a young tank in Ortiz and since his retirment he has changed his style and is now sitting down on his punches more frequently.  

There is no way Cotto can go the distance with Floyd, NONE


It isn't like he had an injury. He has a bone problem, and it only repairs one way. Have you every seen the science behind breaking boards, cements, ice, etc... It started by ancient Martial Arts and they would constantly hit hard surfaces, what happens is you don't fracture or break bones, you mildly damage the structure (your bones look like webs under high microscopic image. As you damage a few areas mildly, they heal and calcify. They become harder. So the ancient arts that was a myth about having shins as hard as any common surfaces, now appears to be true with modern science studies.
Like muscles, you tear them, and they repair. To much and you cause severe injury. So the old art form of chopping trees down with kicks from your shin, harden Thai fighters so they can kick all day with shins like steel rods!

Unfortunately, Mayweather wants to be able to hit harder without having to use greater force as Cotto will be his easiest head target. Naturally he wants his jabs to do facial damage in the process of cuts and swelling. No mystery behind the reason on this one.

His body healing has nothing to do with his hands... unless he somehow had treatments that calcified his his hands. Floyd wasn't walking down a young tank, as Ortiz was the more aggressive moving forward, but Floyd just picked him apart. Ortiz was easy as he would have quit so the threat was not a young tank, but a punching bag that fought back as best it could but seemed unable to land anything significant.
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Posted: 3/22/2012 5:34:50 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ZOUK:



It isn't like he had an injury. He has a bone problem, and it only repairs one way. Have you every seen the science behind breaking boards, cements, ice, etc... It started by ancient Martial Arts and they would constantly hit hard surfaces, what happens is you don't fracture or break bones, you mildly damage the structure (your bones look like webs under high microscopic image. As you damage a few areas mildly, they heal and calcify. They become harder. So the ancient arts that was a myth about having shins as hard as any common surfaces, now appears to be true with modern science studies.
Like muscles, you tear them, and they repair. To much and you cause severe injury. So the old art form of chopping trees down with kicks from your shin, harden Thai fighters so they can kick all day with shins like steel rods!

Unfortunately, Mayweather wants to be able to hit harder without having to use greater force as Cotto will be his easiest head target. Naturally he wants his jabs to do facial damage in the process of cuts and swelling. No mystery behind the reason on this one.

His body healing has nothing to do with his hands... unless he somehow had treatments that calcified his his hands. Floyd wasn't walking down a young tank, as Ortiz was the more aggressive moving forward, but Floyd just picked him apart. Ortiz was easy as he would have quit so the threat was not a young tank, but a punching bag that fought back as best it could but seemed unable to land anything significant.
Ortiz is quicker and stronger than Cotto @ 147, agree or disagree?
Ortiz moves his head more than Cotto...agree or disagree?

There is only one answer and that will tell you how this fight plays out! Cotto isn't going the distance, I will PROMISE you t his.  
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Posted: 3/24/2012 1:47:40 AM
Jerseyboy89: After you said MargaCheeto would make Mexican's proud, and making claims on fights to POUND it, and also making up a false story regarding HOLT will lose as he was drinking with his shirt off (LIE). My cuz told me Holt felt great, and much better than ever, and to prop and early round KO as the weight change re-invigorated Holt to such a degree they said he was a new fighter.
Your consistent posts on underdogs, that have failed to win, and nothing more than telling people to bet the HOUSE and the RANCH... the only time you did a brief analysis, was the one you posted 6 hours after mine and showed a near identical analysis (as this was about your only fight breakdown to date).

You even denied copying mine, which for someone who posts headlines, with no content, and does one accurate assessment (that's like mine), your credibility is way below Zero. I'm actually being kind, as most people type that you are a joke. At least admit the below statement you used my simple breakdown. If enjoy attention for being a liar, and a headline joke... you are failing to even get responses being a total fool.
Also, it appears that you borderline the racism...
"Floyd will slice up that thin Puerto Rican face" , as you constantly add a fighter ethnicity when it is not relevant. Why? Do you have a anger problem along with a racist attitude? This is something you should cease to do IMMEDIATELY, as nobody on this forum will tolerate those statements.

Do yourself a favor, show some class and dignity, regardless of how ridiculous a post is... this way if someone gets upset by a ridiculous post, oh well, but... USE CAUTION WITH THE RACE, as member posters have no TOLERANCE for that and neither will the moderators. They can easily track you IP, MAC, etc.. so regardless of how many accounts you make, they can prohibit any account that is from the same computer, the same area, or the same address from the local ISP!
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