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Author:	[General Discussion] Topic: Your top 5 worst franchises in Sports History
nuggins	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Caesars Palace \|
Veteran Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1922 Location: California	#26 Posted: 5/8/2012 5:16:27 PM Pitt Pirates in all time list...?...not even close... lean last 20 years but still... 5 x WS Champs 9 x NL Pennants even w/ the last 20 years of futility they still have an overall winning record... and they have a ton of players in the HOF case closed
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Veteran Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1922 Location: California	#27 Posted: 5/8/2012 5:40:05 PM What about the TEX Rangers? ...they've been pretty bad. Not on anyone's radar though huh? Houston Astros? Sea Seahawks?
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Prospect Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 135 Location:	#28 Posted: 5/8/2012 7:12:33 PM St Louis Browns....once sent their players decks of playing cards with the team logo as a Christmas present Seattle Pilots Washington Seantors "2.0" - an attempt at the Senators to make a comeback but the franchise moved to Texas and became the Texas Rangers........I think the same thing happened before and that team became the Twinkies Kansas City Athletics .....in essence were a major league farm team for the Yankees....someone on the KCA's would go 3 for 4 and be on the Yankees a few days later.
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All-Star Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 14624 Location: Antarctica	#29 Posted: 5/9/2012 5:27:19 AM Although they were truely one of the most colorful franchises in sports history I think that everybody else is a distant #2 behind... *The Oakland/California Seals/Golden Seals/ Cleveland Barons.* I Highly recommend a book called *"Shorthanded - The Untold Story of the Seals - Hockeys Most Colorful Team"* for ANY and EVERY hockey fan (especially old school cats like me who remember that period in the NHL). It's written by *Brad Kurtzberg* and you can find how to order by using google to find the book. *Off the ice they were horrible having had 7 ownership groups in its 9 year lifespan in two cities. On the ice they were not very good either... but very entertaining as a team.* The book is a large 8 x 11 inches and about 320 pages (softcover)... The first 30 odd pages gives you an overview of this franchise and what happened. The rest of the book is comprised of stories from over 110 former players, owners, coaches and staff. The stories told by these guys is worth the weight of the book in gold to me. If you LOVE hockey... NHL history and old school stories from the actual players... ya gotta read this book. NO... I am NOT a salesman... I just love the book. They were the definition of a BAD FRANCHISE and TEAM.
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Captain Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5187 Location: New Jersey	#30 Posted: 5/10/2012 1:27:45 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Skubishack: Although they were truely one of the most colorful franchises in sports history I think that everybody else is a distant #2 behind... *The Oakland/California Seals/Golden Seals/ Cleveland Barons.* I Highly recommend a book called *"Shorthanded - The Untold Story of the Seals - Hockeys Most Colorful Team"* for ANY and EVERY hockey fan (especially old school cats like me who remember that period in the NHL). It's written by *Brad Kurtzberg* and you can find how to order by using google to find the book. *Off the ice they were horrible having had 7 ownership groups in its 9 year lifespan in two cities. On the ice they were not very good either... but very entertaining as a team.* The book is a large 8 x 11 inches and about 320 pages (softcover)... The first 30 odd pages gives you an overview of this franchise and what happened. The rest of the book is comprised of stories from over 110 former players, owners, coaches and staff. The stories told by these guys is worth the weight of the book in gold to me. If you LOVE hockey... NHL history and old school stories from the actual players... ya gotta read this book. NO... I am NOT a salesman... I just love the book. They were the definition of a BAD FRANCHISE and TEAM. I'm sold ! http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1425910289/ref=tmm_pap_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used
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Captain Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 5555 Location: Georgia	#31 Posted: 5/10/2012 2:05:43 AM last 20 years lions, pirates, royals, warriors, nationals/expos
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All-Star Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 14624 Location: Antarctica	#32 Posted: 5/10/2012 4:37:02 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by ZiggyDawg: I'm sold ! http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1425910289/ref=tmm_pap_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used You're gonna love the players stories... makes you feel like you are seeing it happen with your own eyes. Great insight of what it was like to be a player in the NHL back in those days... and COMPLETELY unedited and raw. Enjoy (as I still do).
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Cannon88	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Veteran Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1199 Location: Alberta	#33 Posted: 5/10/2012 4:56:33 AM I remember the WHITE skates the Seals used to wear.... I'd also add the Colorado Rockies (hockey) to the list. Also, the Washington Capitals were brutal for years....
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Skubishack	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
All-Star Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 14624 Location: Antarctica	#34 Posted: 5/10/2012 8:13:37 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Cannon88: I remember the WHITE skates the Seals used to wear.... I'd also add the Colorado Rockies (hockey) to the list. Also, the Washington Capitals were brutal for years.... The Colorado Rockie started as the KC Scouts and eventually moved to NJ where they have won 3 Stanley Cups and are currently in the East Conference Finals... Not bad I'd say. The Caps started as the worst NHL team ever and for years were nothing special... but for the last 10 years they have been a decent team... but I am surprised that the franchise lasted this long in D.C. without relocating. The white on the Seals skates was actually PAINT and players complained that they weighed a ton by seasons end... Ha,ha,ha.
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Legend Joined: May 2003 Posts: 57780 Location: Kenya	#35 Posted: 5/10/2012 8:55:08 PM Geeezus the Cubs. No disrespect to the faithful but why in the hell do people pay for a ticket to watch that joke of a team. It's impressive. Beer sun and conversation I understand but holy garbage. They field that crap year after year. Seattle man myself. I will never pay to go and watch those jerkoffs try and play baseball. It's embarrassing. Seahawks too. What a laugher.
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