Posted: 5/25/2012 12:16:59 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by sowhat83:
lol..typical..yawn....hero of the underrepresented.....
Supporters of these racist and sexist policies , as you claim to be,claim to be anti-racist and
anti-sexist (in the case of gender quotas), but in all reality it's they that really are racist and
A true anti-racist and anti-sexist shouldn't care whether or not some
ethnic groups or gender is over-represented or under-represented
anywhere. The only thing they should care about is whether or not the
most qualified get the position. Only if they are shut out on account of
their race or gender should we be concerned. And , ironically, this is
exactly what affirmative action/quotas will do: shut out whites or men just on account of their race or gender.
The alleged anti-racism of the "anti-racists" have made them into racists.
test scores of blacks in public schools and the far higher
failure rate of those admitted under affirmative action illustrates,
their under-representation simply reflects that they are
under-represented among those who are qualified.....
racists use that under-representation to argue for rejecting all blacks
-even those who are qualified-, black racists and white leftists use it
to reject qualified whites. In society today, only white racists
are recognized as racists, black racists and white leftists are really
just as racist, only they are anti-white rather than anti-black as the
white racists. Both adhere to the racist principle of rejecting someone
better qualified just because of their race or sex.
Yet another delusional, self afflicted white male finds his way on this site. It never ends does it? But when you press them for answers, they always respond with convenient generalities that they have been indoctrinated with by fellow white males who can't understand why the white male privilege structure slowly erodes in this country in the 21st century (that includes the hapless OP and the usual suspects within this thread).
Let's tell him a simple fact and see how he responds:
He says AA is a racist and sexist policy; that is, it is racist against white males and sexist against them as well. They lose BOTH the color and gender battle today and have to fight through that additional barrier in the quest for 'earning' their rightful place in the corporate and educational arenas.
Isn't it ironic that very same statement could have been made literally the very second after AA was signed into law and then amended to include women in 1967?
But would that have even made sense after centuries of suppression by the white male hand to quarantine the larger benefits of society and its power and status when a law attempted to at a minimum, mitigate that trend (of course, passed by white males themselves who dominated government at virtually every corner).
Why was this law necessary?
Well this is where white males who believe AA is working against them get VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
It was undeniable fact that job opportunities, promotions, equal pay school admissions and financial aid, the very things AA attempts to at least allow others some access to, were the exclusive province of whites before 1961, the year it was signed into law.
Who will deny this? Anyone? The Jim Crow laws, du jour segregation and de facto segregation that existed before 1961 were perfectly evident.
So the law itself came into effect PRECISELY BECAUSE OF WHITE MALE RACIST attitudes, policies, procedures and laws. And it was blatant!
AA was a way to respond to their racist American society and attempt to recognize other races and females within society.
Now 50 years later, all the white males born after the fact believe THEY are the afflicted because all they see is a law that doesn't allow them to maintain the historical status quo they have enjoyed for centuries in this country, that is, systematic and institutional enforcement of white male supremacist policies, the very law that, in all likelihood their parents and grandparents, both likely living today, by default benefited from.
That is how you know the age of these posters. They need scapegoats in a sputtering economy. They see their low bank accounts and smaller houses and low-end cars or the school they ended up going to that wasn't as prominent and they say, "Hey, why am I not doing as well as my parents?? IT MUST BE THOSE DAMN MINORITIES!!!"
Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin etc. etc. etc. make a living off this kind of demagoguery and Mr. 94 poster here is living proof of this. He willingly latches onto this thinking like the Trains/Holdem's/Slovaks of this site because they need an outlet for their resentment. Minorities are the easiest target, especially blacks. Forget women. They've been told about women being the biggest beneficiaries by far, but they are white so they let it slide. The microscope comes back to the minorities after all is said and done, Blacks in particular.
So, we have already proven this law came into existence because white males wanted NOTHING to do with Blacks and women taking their jobs, educational opportunities, and income PRECISELY because they were Black and female. And they weren't shy about it. White males preached it openly both throughout all of society pre-1961.
I'll ask again, where is the evidence that in the past 50 years their racist and sexist attitudes have been completely weened out of jobs and schools and society? Women STILL make .77 on the dollar compared to men in 2012. Blacks? I could fill this thread up for days with evidence there is systematic and institutional racism in full bloom within American society today. Please cite the studies here that you have that says otherwise.
See this is typical white male privilege based thinking. He says when the policy needs to be changed. History be damned. He was born with the 'white is right' birthright and he believes he will dictate when AA has been in the law long enough to remedy the racism and sexism of yesteryear; centuries for blacks and millenia for women.
Listen kid. I eat you guys like you for breakfast on this site and then floss you out from in between my teeth. You are no different then the rest of them. The Billysink's and Crod's etc. etc. were all dealt with and dispatched and you will be too. You have been warned.
Do me a favor. Make like your avatar and take two golfballs and put one in each cheek on the back nine of your next outing. That look will more than suit you and say so much by doing so little.