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Posted: 2/24/2012 12:26:45 PM

Have you had it?

Are you a doctor?

 

Since you don't hold yourself to that standard, this is beyond funny.

Seriously, take your 4th grade logic elsewhere.

 

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Posted: 2/24/2012 12:59:38 PM
Notice why you didn't answer the question and engaged in namecalling. Do you know why that is?

I'll ask again. Have you ever performed the procedure or had one?
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Posted: 2/24/2012 1:18:15 PM

I love how you think it is some sort of "gotcha" that because I've never had an abortion I can't point out, using Planned Parenthood's own reports no less, that the procedure is done with regularity.

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Posted: 2/24/2012 3:25:23 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 14daroad:

I love how you think it is some sort of "gotcha" that because I've never had an abortion I can't point out, using Planned Parenthood's own reports no less, that the procedure is done with regularity.

You seemed to know the procedure wasn't intrusive, without performing it or having it. Didn't you accuse Wall of talking about something he didn't know in this thread.
Irony is a funny thing.

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Posted: 2/24/2012 4:57:35 PM

http://content.eaglepub.com/?kaPa.OzHRroSN2PbFzX0vUVcsHWsASMFk

 

thoughts, feelings?

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QUOTE Originally Posted by Coppsguy:

http://content.eaglepub.com/?kaPa.OzHRroSN2PbFzX0vUVcsHWsASMFk

 

thoughts, feelings?

I know Pelosi made comments about Bush and gas prices. Obama did accuse the oil companies of price manipulation, but I can't find a quote where Obama blamed Bush for high gas prices.

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QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

I know Pelosi made comments about Bush and gas prices. Obama did accuse the oil companies of price manipulation, but I can't find a quote where Obama blamed Bush for high gas prices.

 

as soon as i read that i googled it, and couldnt find anything either.

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  If everybody was just inflate their tires and get regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much oil as you could ..off of more drilling...

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Posted: 2/24/2012 6:35:15 PM

You won't find a Obama quote blaming President GW Bush for the high price of gas.......because...

...High gas prices are what Obama and the Democrats want .. 

 

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Posted: 2/25/2012 1:34:44 PM
“Believe it or not, we could replace up to 17% of the oil we import for transportation with this fuel that we can grow right here in America,” Obama said.

Um, yeah:

  • It would take acreage equivalent to the area of South Carolina to generate that much oil
  • It takes 350 gallons of water for every one gallon of oil you produce
  • Meeting that water requirement would take 25% of our irrigation capacity
  • It takes even more water than that unless you use lakefront and oceanfront real estate

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    Posted: 2/25/2012 2:14:42 PM

    http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/02/24/senator-jeff-sessions-letter-to-president-obama-on-gas-prices/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnewsinsider%2Fgretawire+%28Gretawire%29

    Senator Jeff Sessions letter to Obama on gas prices

     

    1. Restore the bipartisan 2010–2015 offshore lease plan to ensure that the 31 lease sales called for in that plan are completed expeditiously. Your Administration only directed one lease sale in 2011 and has announced just one lease sale for 2012, far short of the number of sales that would have occurred over this period under the original 2010–2015 plan that your Administration discarded.
    2. Take all necessary steps to accelerate the leasing and permitting process for domestic shale oil production. The United States has recoverable shale oil reserves estimated at 800 billion to 1.2 trillion barrels, meaning our nation has potentially three to four times more recoverable oil than any other country in the world except Canada.
    3. Maximize energy production from federal lands. As I and 21 other Senators noted in a January 25, 2012 letter to you, actual oil production on federal lands is now just 714 million barrels per year, a 16 percent decline from what was projected just five years ago. This decline must be reversed.
    4. End the de facto moratorium on permitting for offshore oil and gas production.
    5. Direct the EPA, the Department of Energy, and other federal agencies to grant all necessary waivers and approvals to oil and gas refineries to facilitate maximum production at minimum cost. Refinery expenses comprise 11 percent of the price for gasoline that Americans pay at the pump, but your Administration has imposed numerous regulations that have driven refining costs up, not down.
    6. Abandon your proposal to increase taxes and fees levied on U.S. energy production by more than $40 billion. These additional costs would be passed along to consumers, taking money out of their pockets and discouraging needed domestic production.
    7. Approve the Keystone XL pipeline and grant necessary waivers, licenses, and permits, where possible, to ensure expedited completion of this important North American energy project. The pipeline would carry 700,000 barrels a day to U.S. refineries, which is nearly half what the U.S. currently imports from the entire Middle East.

     

     

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    Posted: 2/25/2012 2:18:13 PM

    Only 23% oppose Keytone.....  Obama messed up on this one!!

    It’s easy to see why one would want to support Keystone. It would create 200,000 jobs during its beginning phases and could create upwards of half a million jobs by 2035. Both labor unions and businesses support it. Why doesn’t the president?

     

    http://biggovernment.com/cjohnson/2012/02/25/pew-poll-americans-overwhelmingly-support-keystone-pipeline/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BigGovernment+%28Big+Government%29

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    Posted: 2/25/2012 7:11:42 PM
    QUOTE Originally Posted by FrontRowCenter:

    Only 23% oppose Keytone.....  Obama messed up on this one!!

    It’s easy to see why one would want to support Keystone. It would create 200,000 jobs during its beginning phases and could create upwards of half a million jobs by 2035. Both labor unions and businesses support it. Why doesn’t the president?

     

    http://biggovernment.com/cjohnson/2012/02/25/pew-poll-americans-overwhelmingly-support-keystone-pipeline/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BigGovernment+%28Big+Government%29



    well done article
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    Posted: 2/25/2012 7:53:39 PM
    QUOTE Originally Posted by FrontRowCenter:

    Only 23% oppose Keytone.....  Obama messed up on this one!!

    It’s easy to see why one would want to support Keystone. It would create 200,000 jobs during its beginning phases and could create upwards of half a million jobs by 2035. Both labor unions and businesses support it. Why doesn’t the president?

     

    http://biggovernment.com/cjohnson/2012/02/25/pew-poll-americans-overwhelmingly-support-keystone-pipeline/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BigGovernment+%28Big+Government%29


    200k jobs?

    Good one..what a joke.

    How about the tally of taxes that Valero is side stepping by having it in that trade zone or the fact it does not add to domestic supply nor is there any economic incentive outside of the hypothetical short term jobs while it is being built?

    Of course most people are not against it, they have no clue what a farce it is.

    Canada needs to build their own refineries and commit to keep supply here, they are doing neither.


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    Posted: 2/26/2012 8:24:43 AM
    nor is there any economic incentive outside of the hypothetical short term jobs while it is being built?

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    Perhaps you could explain why the State Department said there is economic benefit?
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    Posted: 2/26/2012 10:28:04 AM
    QUOTE Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    nor is there any economic incentive outside of the hypothetical short term jobs while it is being built?

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    Perhaps you could explain why the State Department said there is economic benefit?

    Its subjective..which is why you can find a huge range of job estimates from source to source.

    They operate in a trade zone, we get no taxes from activity there (why this zone exists is a mystery) and the products are exported, so outside giving Valero more tax free money and giving some workers more work to do (as a percentage of their total production this isnt a huge percentage) I dont see any economic benefit long term.

    So we can go back and forth on the number of short term jobs but the long term benefit vs potential costs and environmental hazard seems "light" to me.
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    Posted: 2/26/2012 10:58:13 AM
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    They operate in a trade zone, we get no taxes from activity there (why this zone exists is a mystery) 

    I think you just answered your own question 

    What a novelty it would be for Texas to set up a tax free, free-trade zone for huge MNC's... 

    Gee I wonder why America is broke, while corporate profits are at an all time high? 
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    Posted: 2/26/2012 2:19:02 PM
    Its subjective..which is why you can find a huge range of job estimates from source to source.

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    Um, no you can't.

    You can find a bunch of left wingers quoting "estimates" that have no basis in reality.

    Or, you can get information from the company that will do the hiring and the US State Department.

    You pretending these sources are equal is laughable.

    so outside giving Valero more tax free money and giving some workers more work to do (as a percentage of their total production this isnt a huge percentage) I dont see any economic benefit long term.

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    I love how you think money is the government's to give to people or corporations "tax free"

    Of course you don't see any economic benefit. You don't want to.

    Duh.
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    Posted: 2/26/2012 2:29:05 PM
    Right..

    So its always right is right and left is quoting estimates with no basis in reality.

    If anything Valero should pay MORE taxes than average, they take more advantage of the government than the average Joe.
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