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Posted: 5/5/2012 12:55:36 PM
Forbes vs Vargas

This is a good "step-up" fight for Vargas. While Forbes isn't his former self, he is the textbook definition of a gatekeeper. He's been in there with best, including former champions such as Oscar, Berto, and K9 Bundrage. 

Vargas hasn't shown elite power and Forbes has only been stopped once in 11 defeats. I don't see that happening tonight either. Vargas SHOULD win via points, reasonably priced at even money. However, given Forbes experience and Vargas's inexperience, betting the fight to go the distance at -120 is my play here. 

Latimore vs Quintana

Not much to say here. I simply don't believe Quintana has anything left in the tank. I feel Latimore cruises here, with an accumulation stoppage not being out of the question. Latimore straight at -130 is an absolute steal. If there is an under card bout to focus on, this is probably it. 

Mosley vs Alvarez

Some people aren't that high on Canelo. I, for one, am. Mosley simply looks terrible. We've seen all the signs of decline in recent fights. Unfortunately, that comes to a crescendo tonight. I'm expecting Alvarez to dominate and stop Mosley for the first time in his career. Alvarez ITD, +157.

Mayweather vs Cotto

I'm not a huge Mayweather fan. However, I've NEVER seen him look better physically than he does right now at 151. The best Mayweather performance I've seen was his destruction of Arturo Gatti. He might trump that tonight.

Cotto has made a nice little run after the Margarito and Pacquiao losses. However, it's largely been smoke n mirrors. Beating a one eyed, standard gloved Margarito isn't a big deal. Neither is beating Mayorga or Yuri Foreman. He didn't show the level of power and aggressiveness he had earlier in his career in these bouts. If I had to guess, it simply doesn't exist anymore.

Cotto is a man's man. He's a great guy, one that often leaves you rooting for him, even if it isn't realistic. Don't let tonight be one of those nights. Something strange COULD happen, but probably won't. 

All of this being said, two ways to win are always better than one. Cotto still has a ton of heart and will be there to fight. Oddly enough, Mayweather will probably continue his recent trend of staying in the pocket and trading. Mosley rocked him and now he's fighting at 154 for only the second time. A blown up Cotto could do the same if Mayweather gets too aggressive.

Should be a good fight - one that won't see the final bell. Fight won't go the distance, +135.

Good luck everyone, have fun tonight and be safe. 
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Posted: 5/5/2012 1:42:17 PM
good stuff here to look out for tonight. thanks for the writeup.




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Posted: 5/5/2012 8:11:18 PM

Yeah whats up with the short price on Latimore?

I'm pounding that.

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Posted: 5/5/2012 8:52:12 PM
Don't sell Quintana short.  Lattimore has proven to fold when stepping up the competition and Quintana can definitely crack.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 9:13:00 PM

Quintana's footwork has always been his strongpoint and it's better than Latimore's. Quintana finds a way to survive. "Fght goes distance" +110

I love Forbes but Forbes has no chance against  someone with a reach and who doen't mentally crumble. Vargas wins by late TKO or dec.

Alvarez by Dec. Of all of Canelo's opponents who has had fast feet? none. Shane will survive on footwork, footspeed, and survival skills. If Shane goes he goes late.

"Mayweather by any dec -130". Why didn't Mayweather knock out Marquez, Baldomir, Mosley? Gatti had no jab. Cotto has a great jab and has better physical tools and boxing IQ than Gatti, so to say Mayweather has another Gatti-like performance is ABSURD! You're not giving Cotto the respect he deserves.

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Posted: 5/5/2012 9:34:39 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HumanCalculator:

Don't sell Quintana short.  Lattimore has proven to fold when stepping up the competition and Quintana can definitely crack.


wow - this was spot on after watching this
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Posted: 5/5/2012 10:18:24 PM
where are we at currently in undercard ? 

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Posted: 5/5/2012 10:29:05 PM
where are we at currently in undercard ? 

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Posted: 5/5/2012 10:33:57 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by superbri:

where are we at currently in undercard ? 



Mosley/Alvarez just walked into ring

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Posted: 5/6/2012 12:54:04 AM
you clearly know boxing, but you obviously had a very, very tough night

you missed completely on 3 of the 4, but i told you so in the other thread on cotto and his great chin. 

you'll get em next time






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Posted: 5/6/2012 12:55:16 AM
Grid....are you jumping thread to thread correcting people? C'mon dude.
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Posted: 5/6/2012 6:23:21 PM
I clearly underestimated Quintana's motivation. He was in outstanding shape and used superior boxing to bully the bully. He now how a great shot at getting a few more big fights. Swing and a miss on that one.

Forbes/Vargas was a glorified sparring match. Forbes did well in the middle rounds, got not credit on the cards, Vargas wins easy decision. 100% correct on this fight.

Alvarez brutalized Mosley. That fight should have been stopped multiple times in rounds 9 or 10 when Mosley was out on his feet on more than one occasion. Somebody should have saved him from himself in this fight. Absolutely correct on my assessment of the fight, just caught a very unlucky break.

Cotto did some outstanding body work early in the fight, resulting in Mayweather throwing arm punches midway through until he regained his wind and came on strong down the stretch. Mayweather almost closes the show in the final round. 

Tough fight to bet in general, as it turned out to be a rather entertaining fight with plenty of action. If I had to do it again, I would probably approach it the same way. It was the type of fight that would probably be 50/50 in terms of it reaching the final bell. Last night was clearly the other side. 
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Posted: 5/9/2012 5:02:32 PM
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