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Posted: 10/14/2006 2:10:08 PM
look a conservative...whats it like to be a total moron Tex...
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Posted: 10/14/2006 2:43:31 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jr0884:

Thanks for caring to share that vanzack.  I really appreciate it.  I wasn't paniced, but there was a little concern in the back of my mind.  You have eleveated that.  Again, thank you.

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I agree . . you have ALLEVIATED my concerns as well  . . .thanks for a great post!
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Posted: 10/14/2006 2:47:02 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by WilliamMunny:

look a conservative...whats it like to be a total moron Tex...


I'm glad you can decipher someone's political status from the 4 words that I posted
Yeah, I'm the "total moron"
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#104
Posted: 10/14/2006 3:02:47 PM
thanks vanzack....very helpful post.
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Posted: 10/14/2006 8:54:24 PM
keep it up vanzack, you are a good man and out there for the good of us   AS for you buddywright you are a real scumbag. If  i find you, you will know who your daddy is.
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Posted: 10/14/2006 9:05:57 PM
Hell yeah bro  Thanks for the heads up
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Posted: 10/14/2006 9:30:20 PM
Buddywrong thinking Webb and Van are the same person. And then getting boxed. Perhaps the funniest thing ever.
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#108
Posted: 2/19/2007 2:16:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack:

The formality of GWB signing the bill today has sent many in to a panic.  Its like they have never heard of any of this or that they havent prepared in any way.  The bottom line is that there is no reason to panic - there isnt even a reason to be concerned - there is a reason to be prepared and educated and you have had 2 weeks to do that so this should be of no surprise.
 
The gambling industry forum here has never been so busy.  The funny thing is that there is a core group of guys who have been instrumental here at getting the news out and nobody bothered to read or listen to these folks.
 
Here is your readers digest version - and I will only post it here this once - and I will not post in the ongoing panic threads that are now littering covers.
 
1.  The bill does not target the gambler in any way.  Nothing has changed legally for you the bettor.
2.  There is questions about the enforceability of the bill in the first place and it might just go by the wayside eventually.
3.  Neteller current stance is that they are in still in business for Americans and that this bill doesnt effect them.  Firepay has backed out of the US market.
4.  99% of sportsbooks and poker sites also say that this bill doesnt effect them.  The reason is simple - the USA cannot make laws for the rest of the world.  It is LEGAL in curacao, england, costa rica to be a bookmaker and there is nothing the US can do about it.  There is no world court or world laws.
5.  PartyPoker and WWTS are in the tiny minority of books who have decided to not take US customers because they are PUBLIC companies and will not put their stockholders or board in any risk.   Once again there is no risk if they are not American but speculation is that these companies have american members.
 
Pinnacle, Mansion, The Greek, Cris and every other top tier book is still around and will be around.  This has nothing to do with them.  Imagine if France passed a law that said selling hamburgers was illegal.  Then a French guy came to your burger shop and ordered a burger in Minnesota.  Are you criminally responsible to the French Govt?  Of course not.  So these books operate under the jurisdiction of their local governments and they are all citizens of countries that condone bookmaking.
 
That is it in a nutshell.  No panic.  Its business as usual with a few adjustments.
 
classic vanzack...
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Posted: 2/22/2007 1:43:01 PM
Nice thread..Thank you
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Posted: 2/27/2007 5:51:32 PM
.................darn THE GOVERNMENT
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Posted: 3/1/2007 5:13:14 AM
what about netteller they stink
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Posted: 3/5/2007 12:09:23 PM
Good job van...thanks for keeping us informed on this.
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#115
Posted: 3/6/2007 10:11:58 PM
This guys fight with web POrn, so what it is still exists. Dudes in China filming BullShit and puting it on Inet. Gambling goes offshore and everibody will be happy. Nothing US can do about it.
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Posted: 3/19/2007 10:17:15 PM
The USA gov't is chock full of lying frauds.
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Posted: 4/4/2007 1:22:48 PM
I used to vote for these right wing sumbitches.
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#118
Posted: 5/7/2007 1:54:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack:

The formality of GWB signing the bill today has sent many in to a panic.  Its like they have never heard of any of this or that they havent prepared in any way.  The bottom line is that there is no reason to panic - there isnt even a reason to be concerned - there is a reason to be prepared and educated and you have had 2 weeks to do that so this should be of no surprise.
 
Pinnacle, Mansion, The Greek, Cris and every other top tier book is still around and will be around.  This has nothing to do with them.  Imagine if France passed a law that said selling hamburgers was illegal.  Then a French guy came to your burger shop and ordered a burger in Minnesota.  Are you criminally responsible to the French Govt?  Of course not.  So these books operate under the jurisdiction of their local governments and they are all citizens of countries that condone bookmaking.
 
That is it in a nutshell.  No panic.  Its business as usual with a few adjustments.
 



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