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Posted: 6/7/2012 10:07:11 AM
GOODELL : I hereby suspend you for one year.

PLAYER : With all due respect commissioner, I would like to appeal.

GOODELL : Thank you. The NFL shall review your case.

5 Seconds later.....

GOODELL : After extensive review of my work, the work was perfect, thorough and beyond reproach. I agree with everything I said, wrote and thought and would like to commend myself for such excellent, thoughtful work. Suspension upheld.

WHAT A friggin JOKE.....

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Posted: 6/7/2012 11:11:37 AM
I agree AHD.

Even if I wasn't from New Orleans and a lifelong Saints fan I would still agree. How can the person who rules on a case be the next step in the appeals process?

The ruling that gets me the most is the Saints could be penalized if someone talks to Sean Payton. How can this be enforced? Name one job or any example for that matter where if an employee or member of an organization speaks to someone else who is suspended (or fired) will be punished for speaking to that person. Every night Drew Brees should go to Sean Payton's house and talk X's and O's and there shouldn't be a damned thing Goddell could do about it.

I know congress has a lot on their plate and I'm not saying they should investigate (yet) but somehow these ruling seem to violate Freedom of Speech and possibly Commerce.
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Posted: 6/7/2012 11:20:46 AM
It is ridiculous. They need an independent panel of players, owners and maybe ex refs to give some legitimacy to the process. As it stands now, it is a total farce and seems to exacerbate the situation. 

Imposing restrictions that are nearly impossible to monitor and enforce is absurd. Thats the situation Goodell put himself in because he thinks he is the GD king of the NFL. I wonder if anyone over there ever thinks about how this garbage resonates in the real world.

I am pulling for you with the appeals, but I wouldnt be very optimistic..


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Posted: 6/8/2012 3:16:25 AM
First of all, it's total bullshit. However, my question is why would the players association agree to that garbage? If I'm correct, the commish set the punishment, and rewiew all appeals. WTF is that?
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Posted: 6/8/2012 6:52:10 AM
if youre not doing anything wrong then you should have nothing to worry about
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Posted: 6/8/2012 10:55:25 AM
Yep, the NFLPA agreed to this.  So they have nothing to girl about.
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Posted: 6/8/2012 11:29:33 AM
They need a committee... Goodell being judge, jury and executioner is BS... I know they agreed to this, but basicly did so under duress... A committee with penalties listed for every violation thinkable... that way everyone knows what their punishment would be rather than having to wait and see what side of the bed Goodell wakes up on... There have been several instances of same violations where he handed down drasticly different punishments...  He has been given way too much power..
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Posted: 6/8/2012 12:19:54 PM
The players JUST agreed to it. Dumb people have nobody to blame but themselves.
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Posted: 6/8/2012 12:33:51 PM
riiiiiight. because the players have SO much leverage in their dealings with the owners. give me a break.


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Posted: 6/8/2012 12:52:09 PM

Come on! They were on strike/lockout! They agreed to the deal. Plain and simple

And if they don't like the rules of their employer they can friggin quit their job! No one is forcing them to play. Plus as said, don't break the rules and you have nothing to girl about

 

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Posted: 6/8/2012 1:23:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wmi799:

Come on! They were on strike/lockout! They agreed to the deal. Plain and simple

And if they don't like the rules of their employer they can friggin quit their job! No one is forcing them to play. Plus as said, don't break the rules and you have nothing to girl about

 


then we should remove the the league anti-trust exemption for broadcasting. the league was using broadcast $$$ to build a lockout fund to get leverage over the players. they built up the cash reserves to be able to sweat out the players, hurt local communities and enforce monopoly power.





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Posted: 6/8/2012 3:11:21 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:


then we should remove the the league anti-trust exemption for broadcasting. the league was using broadcast $$$ to build a lockout fund to get leverage over the players. they built up the cash reserves to be able to sweat out the players, hurt local communities and enforce monopoly power.





That is why they are owners! It is a business and they are in it (most of them) to make money. Like any business. For example, look at the NBA. Jordan, the OWNER, was one of the more hardline owners as he is now a businessman.

But, that has little to do with the appeals project argument AHD you made to start the thread.

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Posted: 6/9/2012 12:32:40 PM
it has everything to do with the appeals process. the players had a weak bargaining position and got a shitty deal. hard to get too worked up about it though....billionaires fighting with millionaires.






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Posted: 6/9/2012 1:57:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:


then we should remove the the league anti-trust exemption for broadcasting. the league was using broadcast $$$ to build a lockout fund to get leverage over the players. they built up the cash reserves to be able to sweat out the players, hurt local communities and enforce monopoly power.







They attempted to build a lockout fund but Judge Doty ruled that that deal with the networks violated the existing CBA (the ruling was just prior to the expiration). Therefore the owners would not have had access to that money until a new CBA was reached.

Regardless, the appeals process really needs to change.

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Posted: 6/9/2012 2:10:24 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:

it has everything to do with the appeals process. the players had a weak bargaining position and got a shitty deal. hard to get too worked up about it though....billionaires fighting with millionaires.








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