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#126 Posted: 3/30/2012 3:01:18 PM VAN, -165, win ten (10.00) units; DET, +100, risk five (5.00) units; DET & ANA, over 5 (-140), win five (5.00) units; DET over 2' (-130), win three (3.00) units and ANA over 2' (-125) win two 2.00) units MN, +131, risk 1.00 unit; ST JOE, -286, win 0.50 unit; DREXEL, -360, win 0.50 unit; MIA (FL), -550, win 0.50 unit; AZ, -420,win ten (10.00) units; NV, +256, risk 1.00 unit and MISS, -270, win 0.50 unit. 2H, AZ, -460, win 10 units.
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#127 Posted: 3/30/2012 3:04:28 PM 1H, Duke, -400, win five (5.00) units Duke, -725, win ten (10.00) units; 1H, MI, -175, win four (4.00) units and Michigan, -225, win ten (10.00) units. 2H, Duke, -600, win ten (10.00) units and 2H, MI, -300, win ten (10.00) units.
Anyone with bankroll management like this is a no go for me. I
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#130 Posted: 3/30/2012 10:44:04 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by peeiempee:
How can anyone recover from a 200 unit bankroll loss in 2 days??? You can't grow with today's action. You'll need a 1000 unit bankroll. If that's the case then you should go hang wit john morrison
peeiemee,
To be fair shouldn’t you post the results from March 15 and
March 17-29? If you did you’d see those results are +177.45
from going 97-46-5 which won at 67.83% .
Here’s the summary daily recap for each night based on the sent tickets.
March 15, +9.86 units while going 13-4-0
March 17, +36.25 units while going 13-7-0
March 18, +10.90 units while going 16-4-0
March 19, -41.36 units while going 3-11-0
March 20, +25.67 units while going 6-1-0
March 21, +1.55 units while going 4-2-1
March 22, +10.39 units while going 8-4-2
March 23, +33.82 units while going 10-5-0
March 24, -7.03 units while going 12-4-1
March 25, -4.00 units while going 3-2-0
March 26, +35.60 units while going 2-0-1
March 27, +26.30 units while going 3-1-0
March 28, +41.00 units while going 4-0-0
March 29, -1.50 units while going 0-1-0
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#131 Posted: 3/31/2012 1:16:17 AM peeiemee,
Let me add that Friday todaysaction went 5-2-0 picking up 3.20 units. So that now makes them going 102-48-5 and +180.65 units since you "lost 200 units". That's a 68% run. If you think you're going to win every ticket, there's a serious problem. It tells me you were underfunded in both amount of funds and overvalued your unit. Their service plays to win and they're good at it.
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#132 Posted: 3/31/2012 1:32:22 AM Well it looks like its time for Big Keith to chime back in on this post.
This reply is going to be somewhat long and as close to the cusp as I can be via online.
You can take what from it you may and or you can come to your own conclusions as you may.
HERE are a Few facts about Long-term gamblers that most don't know.
1. They all use additional work from many sources, most being either one or the other.
People in the know !!!! What is that defined as !. Players themselves,asst coaches, media personall that know what is happening behind the scenes, wives,girlfriends, hookers, and their team trainers and or doctors, And it some cases actually umpires and or reffs that really are in the know. Less then 1 % will ever have access to this information EVER.
Its not sold on the open market their is no special website to go to. Its all based on personal relationship's that have taken years to build. And you will certainly not see this type of info on a Board such as this and or any other gambling board.
2. Services.
The million dollar question what service to use ? Whom is good and who sucks ?
What defines a service ? However before we go back into this question of the Century !
Lets look at YOU.
Bankroll Bankroll Bankroll Bankroll Bankroll.
In my humble opinion if you don't not have at least 800 units of Bankroll You shouldn't GAMBLE
PERIOD.............................................................
There isn't 1 Crew or Solo top sports bettor that doesn't have at least this if not more complied over years and years of work. If you are looking for a Month of Winners DON'T GAMBLE
The largest single gambler in the sports world is Not Billy Walters not even Close.
Its the China man known as Q. He has a 25 million dollar bankroll and he plays 50 Grand a game on average. In 2010 he took Pinnacle for around 4.5 million dollars. he has months that he has lost upwards or 700 K or higher. However like the Pro that he is. He knows after season after season the profits come. He plays less then 0.0002 % per wager.
THINK ABOUT THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you are struggling to pay a service such as Today's Action or Black belt cappers Why would you Wager from their selections ?
And then Lose and come on here and COMPLAIN ? WHY
And on top of it don't play the way you really should to make long-term profits ?
Which is ? ALL YEAR AROUND. Not 1 sport. You don't have enough funding and or EXP to do this. You think you do ? YOU DON'T.
I have told everyone from Day 1 if you are going to play with such services as T/A or BB You have to play year to date. Not 1 month Not 3 months and certainly not 1 sport ?
Look at it this way. I am assuming many you have 401 plans from work or an IRA account ?
When your money is debited to go into the fund do they take it every other month or every 3 rd month. NO THEY DON'T.
Its paycheck to paycheck or monthly NON-STOP year after year ?
Sports wagering is the same thing. Year after Year NON-STOP. Get this thru your Fu--ing Heads.
Lets tackle the ordeal with Today's Action this this poster whom by the way has 8 posts and I know for a FACT hasn't been with this above service more then a couple of months.
He claims T/A Lost 200 units in College hoops NOT TRUE. Did they take a hit sure did.
However Lets examine NFL + 103 UNITS Last years MLB + 150 Units NHL was at over a 100 units a couple of weeks ago. Breeders cup with 10 Thousand in winnings ALONE.
NBA is + 60 units/ Today's Action is 4th generation Cappers. Terry alone has been capping for 50 years.
Since the CBB Debacle they have won back close to 100 units in less then 10 days.
How do you judge a services Worth ??? By exactly what Terry and his Boys have done. The took a hit and what do you know ? They came Right Back and within 2 to 3 weeks we will not alone have all monies back we again be Ahead ?
Black belt cappers took a hit in Jan THEY LOST. What have they don't since WIN..................
Again its an ALL YEAR AROUND INVESTMENT.
Don't buy the service if you cannot control your bankroll or YOU are Underfunded.
I Will never lose a Dollar with Today's Action and or Blackbelt EVER.............................
WHY. Because I have the proper bankroll in Check.
Terry won 1000 Units last year....................... And yet some Slap person is crying about dropping some loses because he is UNDERFUNDED and or Full of garbage.
Suggestion " Stay buying John Morrison's crap until you learn how to Wager properly.
Here is a question for everyone ? How much is your Over-leveraged House Worth ????
If anyone has any questions feel free to Email me. By the way I don't work and or am I either one of these services. I play my own picks and use them as additional Selections.
On the days that Terry doesn't release at least 10 picks I am all over him.Most of the time he is Min 15 to 20 tickets a day ? Why because Volume WINS.
30 to 40 selections a day is A Nice day. I don't play 2 picks a day. That is for the guys at the office whom have nothing else to do with their lives. I PLAY TO WIN.
Learn how to Wager before you JUMP IN................................. Sad part is. Both of these services above will be more then happy to help you with that ? JUST ASK. |
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#133 Posted: 3/31/2012 1:50:57 PM of that and left me with about 200 profit after cost of script in about 2 weeks. That's when I stopped playing them. Then comes the 2 huge losing days. To be fair they can win. When I signed up, I asked them what their recommended bankroll was. They said split your bankroll into 100 units. What type of advice is that when about 100 units goes on one game. Hell, at least Morrison and chase systems you know going in you are laying out the juice to profit 1 unit. I have no doubt they are up over the course of time. So are chase systems.
My point is you can't growth with them unless You split your bankroll into 1000 units, if that's the case play Morrison and chase. If you had a 200 units bankroll you would be wiped out in 3 days. Will they win it back? Maybe. Will they lose another 100 Units playing a -300? Maybe.
I heard about BB and TDA through this post. I unfortunately went with tda because that's what I can afford and they were winning 100 units, according to their website which was late to update so they say and has numerous missing days. Then I can only afford bb by splitting. Sothese posts are just to let everyone know that with tda be prepared to lay the -300 to -400 for 30 units. And split your bankroll into 1000 units. If this is not for you, then don't play them. They can profit, but be careful. My two weeks with BB despite the guy being a jerk at the end has been fair, he may have a reason to. His records are accurate and I was about even or down a little those two weeks. But will not wipe your bankroll in 3 days if you jumped in for march madness.
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#134 Posted: 3/31/2012 2:07:24 PM with tda, but I do have a big problem with tdas recommended units in bankroll. Please consider that for all reading |
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#135 Posted: 3/31/2012 2:14:32 PM 1st off you are 100 % Full of garbage if you think I am Shill for ANYONE.
I dont need to be. I dont depend on any 1 service to support my wagering. I use them an addtional supplement to my income.
The above services I have been writing about for quite sometime and other posts in regards to proper bankroll. I dont know what they told you or didnt tell you, that isnt my job to be a Fly on the Wall.
It has been stated for years by some of the largest players in the world in regards on what to do with Bankroll.
Bottom line You were UNDERFUNDED. Plain and Simple.
Shame on you for taking on a service that plays High Volume and can skew up and down on a regular basis and yet still maintain high profits at end of year.
Maybe you should learn to Wager before paying for Any Service ?
I have said it a 1000 times. Play all year around and Not 1 Sport and even a Guy like you might make some cash.
This is a lesson for everyone on the board that is viewing this Thread about playing year to date and not for a couple of months and or even weeks.
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#136 Posted: 3/31/2012 2:45:10 PM be involved at all. Please let me know if you are in the same situation as me and would like to split them |
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#137 Posted: 3/31/2012 3:04:03 PM I recommend. Just my opinion and my caution about tda Just in anyone is like me here and this isn't your style. Spent way too much time with this. Best of luck. |
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#138 Posted: 3/31/2012 4:34:50 PM As for the answer to the question, it looks like Today's Action lost 200 units in 2 days as peeiempee said. The misleading point is that their 200 units isn't really 200 units. Based on the way you guys describe it, it is far less than that from a money standpoint.
In my mind and probably others, your entire bankroll equals to 100% and I break that down to 100 units. That's why I asked how can you lose double the size of your BR and how can you lose it in only 2 days. That didn't compute for me.
It should be stated that TDA lost 25% of the bankroll in 2 days. That's if your BR is split into 800 units as Big Keith said he does. So the units of profit and loss are misleading.
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#139 Posted: 3/31/2012 5:53:27 PM Into 10 units which equals 100 units. They wager that much on one game sometimes. That's what I'm saying to caution people who are winning with them and others thinking they can play them on bankrolls of 100 units. You can't. 800-1000 is good. |
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#140 Posted: 3/31/2012 7:49:03 PM peeiempee,
I was told Terry uses $100 units and to match units for the tickets sent. I've done that but I use $50 for my unit and made a nice amount of money.
I started with todaysaction with a monthly plan a while back, took some time off, rejoined a little later between my job and them I made enough money to pick up thier yearly plan. When I started on the monthly, I was told to have 100 units.
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#141 Posted: 3/31/2012 8:22:43 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S: That's quite a bit to read and take in. Good stuff though.
As for the answer to the question, it looks like Today's Action lost 200 units in 2 days as peeiempee said. The misleading point is that their 200 units isn't really 200 units. Based on the way you guys describe it, it is far less than that from a money standpoint.
In my mind and probably others, your entire bankroll equals to 100% and I break that down to 100 units. That's why I asked how can you lose double the size of your BR and how can you lose it in only 2 days. That didn't compute for me.
It should be stated that TDA lost 25% of the bankroll in 2 days. That's if your BR is split into 800 units as Big Keith said he does.
So the units of profit and loss are misleading.
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Okay, call me 'green' but if one loses 200 units, how can that not be 200 units? I understand the math you're showing but, to me, if you lose 200 units, it's 200 units (not a percentage).
When I asked Terry and Will about units won and was told, that's how they judge themselves. Check out their win percentages for the various sports they're all at or above 56% which tells me they don't use a higher unit saving type ticket to have profits.
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#142 Posted: 3/31/2012 10:56:17 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Bubba_Says:
Okay, call me 'green' but if one loses 200 units, how can that not be 200 units? I understand the math you're showing but, to me, if you lose 200 units, it's 200 units (not a percentage).
When I asked Terry and Will about units won and was told, that's how they judge themselves. Check out their win percentages for the various sports they're all at or above 56% which tells me they don't use a higher unit saving type ticket to have profits.
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If your total bankroll was split into 800 units as BK said in his example and you lose 200 units of it, then 200 is 1/4 of 800 which equals to 25% of the bankroll lost.
Everyone has different unit sizes so to see 200 units lost doesn't tell you the money that was lost. To see 25% of the bankroll lost makes it equal for everyone. So if you have a BR of 100K and I have one of 50K, then you lost 25K and I lost 12.5K.
At the end of the day, it's not about the units made or lost, it's about the money made or lost. 
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#143 Posted: 3/31/2012 11:03:32 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by peeiempee: That's the main reason for my posts with bubba and anyone else reading this. I still have the email with them telling me to split 1000 Into 10 units which equals 100 units. They wager that much on one game sometimes. That's what I'm saying to caution people who are winning with them and others thinking they can play them on bankrolls of 100 units. You can't. 800-1000 is good.
I understand what you are saying. I've never really split a roll into 800-1000 units. To me, it seems like you're underbetting if you do that. To each his own though. Everyone is in control of their own bankroll. The goal is to make money. That's what we all have in common. |
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#144 Posted: 4/1/2012 1:10:22 AM Thanks Saints !!!!
At the end of the day you as a Bettor need to decide what you can afford to play with and whom you cant ? Plain and simple.
This poster has no business in my opinion using Todays Action Period.
You cant afford them and you dont know enough about bankroll. I mean you are on here attempting to find people to split BB service with you ?
With all due respect you really shouldnt be gambling with that type of Thinking. I am sorry.
If anyone wants to play to win LONG-TERM. What is Long term as least 1 year perferable 2 to 3 years YOU need 800 to 1000 units of stash ready to go.
I dont give a garbage what service you use or how you play ? Without the stash you are Dead man Walking.
I had a half dozen emails personally sent to me asking me the same stuff ? how many units can I make or how long have they been winning ?
How much money do you have ? If you are going to play to win over a couple of year period you need at 25 grand and play every selection.
THAT GOES FOR BOTH SERVICES.
Its that Simple. If you dont have the above either you find another service that is cheaper and or save your money when you are ready to get into the Major"s of Sports wagering.
There isnt anymore to discuss and THAT IS friggin THAT.
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#145 Posted: 4/7/2012 2:54:03 PM
We can certainly agree that if you don't have the money, you can't make any money. You have to know that if you have a $1000 it won't be $100,000 in a few months. garbage, it probably won't be $5000 as even that would be a great return.
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#146 Posted: 4/13/2012 5:22:13 PM
Does anybody else notice how bubba and bigkeith came to the defense of that crappy service after peeimpee told the truth about them?? I mean seriously, if you guys can't see their both SHILLS by this point, then you are blind.
Keep up the BS you two. And I will keep calling you out on it.
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#147 Posted: 4/13/2012 5:24:38 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S: That's quite a bit to read and take in. Good stuff though. As for the answer to the question, it looks like Today's Action lost 200 units in 2 days as peeiempee said. The misleading point is that their 200 units isn't really 200 units. Based on the way you guys describe it, it is far less than that from a money standpoint.
In my mind and probably others, your entire bankroll equals to 100% and I break that down to 100 units. That's why I asked how can you lose double the size of your BR and how can you lose it in only 2 days. That didn't compute for me.
It should be stated that TDA lost 25% of the bankroll in 2 days. That's if your BR is split into 800 units as Big Keith said he does. So the units of profit and loss are misleading.
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200 units lost is 200 units lost.. Period. There is no recovery from losing that type of money that fast..
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#148 Posted: 4/18/2012 11:08:40 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Mr_Ranch:
200 units lost is 200 units lost.. Period. There is no recovery from losing that type of money that fast..
If anyone says otherwise, then they are full of sh*t.
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#149 Posted: 4/18/2012 2:01:04 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:
It obvious you missed the point of it all. We aren't surprised by that.
Not only that but did 'you' notice that some people only post when a service doesn't do well? The way some act, they expect to win every ticket, every day forever.
Bottom line, know the service you're working with. As for myself, I like return I've gotten from Terry and his sons. |
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#150 Posted: 4/25/2012 12:56:43 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Bubba_Says:
Not only that but did 'you' notice that some people only post when a service doesn't do well? The way some act, they expect to win every ticket, every day forever.
Bottom line, know the service you're working with. As for myself, I like return I've gotten from Terry and his sons.
That seems to be how Ranch is. He just likes to talk garbage and provides no good info at all. |
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