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Posted: 5/4/2012 11:31:00 PM
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A calorie is a calorie, and thats a fact you cannot change. So lets say, you need 3500 calories to break even, then you will lose weight if you eat 3300 calories, and then it doesnt matter if those 3300 calories comes from pizza, ice cream, candy or whatever, it doesnt matter at all. However when wanting to build muscle or stay healthy, its important that you also get your macro nutrients and your micro nutritents, and that means you need to keep a proper diet. But, you can lose weight by living of ice cream, its not recommended at all, but it is possible.

Of course its possible because your body is dying. Without proper nutrients your body is eating muscle as well......Also, the sugar in the junk for will trigger your body to to store that energy, making weightless harder/less efficient

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Posted: 5/5/2012 10:24:24 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Asomugha:

Jive_Turkey -   A calorie is a calorie, just face it, it doesnt matter where it comes from, so he can eat all the junk food he wants if that we he wants, just as long as he keeps track of the calories he gets. Stupid post is stupid by you man.

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Posted: 5/5/2012 10:57:59 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Of course its possible because your body is dying. Without proper nutrients your body is eating muscle as well......Also, the sugar in the junk for will trigger your body to to store that energy, making weightless harder/less efficient



The body will NOT eat your muscles if it is given enough calories, that way the body believes that it has enough energy to survive, therefore it will not pull from any of the depots.
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Posted: 5/27/2012 7:18:40 AM
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hard to give a proper rundown without seeing what you look like but it sounds like you're bf% would be through the roof 

Ignore those 'old school' articles you read in Muscle and Fiction type magazines about bodybuilders embarking on ridiculous off-season bulk ups where they eat anything and everything in sight .. It's a recipe that'll turn you into a fat behind .... 

I've been there and done it - added 10+ kg (22+ pounds) over the course of 9 months or so on "bulk ups" and while I naturally felt a bit stronger in the gym, I looked soft and my bf% ballooned to 22% 

Wasn't until a couple of years ago I started working with a top natural bodybuilder that I totally transformed my approach. I went to this guy expecting him to put me on programs and nutrition plans that would help me get bigger, but instead he put me on a bodyfat reduction regimen with a view to getting my bodyfat down to 10% ... That experience completely opened my eyes in terms of what should go in your mouth and when.

Within 9 months I'd reduced my bf% to that target number (lost about 8kg in doing so and most of my muscle measurements remained pretty much identical to when I was heavier and bulking (bicep, thighs, chest etc) ... But the real kicker was I actually LOOKED bigger because I was so much leaner and everything stood out .. I also felt so much healthier and tighter / more functional. 

So the moral of this story - I think you would be far better served reducing your bodyfat levels dramatically in the first instance to around 12-15% or lower if you can .... If you can do that, I wouldn't mind betting that you'd be so impressed with your appearance that you wouldn't even want to bulk up ... However if you do, it's simply a case of slowly adding slight increases to your daily calorie intake .. that might be as simple as adding two or three servings of brown rice per day or another slow digesting carb and or 'good' fat source ... 

Forget about the junk food dirty bulking bullshit .... you won't get big like a horse, you'll get fat like a pig 

 


interesting!! Cheers J-Turk So you put on an average of about 1kg per month? is this typical for most people when they are bulking? i want to be biggerr, not huge but just bigger than what i am as i have really gotten abit to lean. I am short and slim. I weighed about 57kg before i started bulking over a month ago. If i put on 3 or 4kg's? would that be noticable?


It turns out i'm a hard gainer. i am naturally slim build, was skinny all throughout high school. almost been 2 months now of trying to put on weight and bulk. I may have put on something like 1kg (i'll weigh myself again in the morning and post it here).

I'm eating so much that i seem to be always full from the moment i wake up to when i go to bed lol. I tell ya what though my gut is getting big again.

On top of all the carbs and weight gaining foods i also purchased a weight gainer supp to help me along the way. On my 2nd week on it.

I'm going to continue a 3rd month and go nuts and then most likely end it at 3 months. We'll see how i go.
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Posted: 5/27/2012 7:25:10 AM
3BallBomber: U should aim for 500 grams / week which is 2kg / month. That goes for cutting as well. There is no reason to over-bulk, as the body will just stock up fat. Even if u eat 500 calories more than you should eat to break even, some of it will stock up as fat, that is why you switch between bulk and cut.

Bulk = To gain muscle.
Cut = To remove fat

However when cutting you will most likely lose a little bit of muscle mass as well.
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Posted: 5/28/2012 9:30:40 AM
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interesting!! Cheers J-Turk So you put on an average of about 1kg per month? is this typical for most people when they are bulking? i want to be biggerr, not huge but just bigger than what i am as i have really gotten abit to lean. I am short and slim. I weighed about 57kg before i started bulking over a month ago. If i put on 3 or 4kg's? would that be noticable?


It turns out i'm a hard gainer. i am naturally slim build, was skinny all throughout high school. almost been 2 months now of trying to put on weight and bulk. I may have put on something like 1kg (i'll weigh myself again in the morning and post it here).

I'm eating so much that i seem to be always full from the moment i wake up to when i go to bed lol. I tell ya what though my gut is getting big again.

On top of all the carbs and weight gaining foods i also purchased a weight gainer supp to help me along the way. On my 2nd week on it.

I'm going to continue a 3rd month and go nuts and then most likely end it at 3 months. We'll see how i go.

its always tough to give the most accurate advice possible just on what you describe but if you're putting on weight around your midsection you're probably being a bit too aggressive with your efforts to bulk up (ie eating too much too soon) and or not putting in enough hard work lifting heavy objects ! 

at 57kg you're a paper weight (although not sure what you're height is) so adding 3 or 4kg is probably not going to catch the attention of your buddies. 

If you're really serious about making a serious difference to your physique, the best advice I could give is to do some homework and find a really good personal trainer in your area. And when I say "really good" I don't mean some 20-something year old who works at 'fitness first' and tells you to do 3 sets of 10 on everything. 

Find someone who's been there and done it - someone who's physique is proof that they know what they're talking about. A top notch PT will take all your measurements and will be able to devise a plan that's the right one for you. 

A good start however would be to ditch the weight gainer products. 


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Posted: 5/28/2012 2:24:27 PM
Weight gainer is waste of money.
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Posted: 5/28/2012 11:22:22 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:


its always tough to give the most accurate advice possible just on what you describe but if you're putting on weight around your midsection you're probably being a bit too aggressive with your efforts to bulk up (ie eating too much too soon) and or not putting in enough hard work lifting heavy objects ! 

at 57kg you're a paper weight (although not sure what you're height is) so adding 3 or 4kg is probably not going to catch the attention of your buddies. 

If you're really serious about making a serious difference to your physique, the best advice I could give is to do some homework and find a really good personal trainer in your area. And when I say "really good" I don't mean some 20-something year old who works at 'fitness first' and tells you to do 3 sets of 10 on everything. 

Find someone who's been there and done it - someone who's physique is proof that they know what they're talking about. A top notch PT will take all your measurements and will be able to devise a plan that's the right one for you. 

A good start however would be to ditch the weight gainer products. 



I am short 5'3". again i don't want the physique of a body builder. Right now you could say i am as slim as somebody like Bruce lee but would like to be bigger than that, not huge but just bigger so perhaps extra 4kg's is alright!?!? Should be notes i want to put on weight especially on my chest as i've always been flat chested.

I have 2 kids and w/ work i dont have time for a PT. I gotta do this on my own which is great w/ me as i take this is a personal challenge.

I am a very hard gainer being naturally skinny all my life and the weight gain supps is just extra help for a slim hard gainer - surely it won't hurt in the bulking process for me?
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Posted: 5/28/2012 11:28:42 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Asomugha:

3BallBomber: U should aim for 500 grams / week which is 2kg / month. That goes for cutting as well. There is no reason to over-bulk, as the body will just stock up fat. Even if u eat 500 calories more than you should eat to break even, some of it will stock up as fat, that is why you switch between bulk and cut.

Bulk = To gain muscle.
Cut = To remove fat

However when cutting you will most likely lose a little bit of muscle mass as well.

any chance you can give me carbohydrates reccomendations over calories? i'm used to counting carbs
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Posted: 5/28/2012 11:30:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Asomugha:

Weight gainer is waste of money.

I just bought that one tub to help me along the way as i've really found it hard to gain the weight and i'll be on my 3rd month already come June. As somebody who has difficulty gaining i don't think it can hurt to take it. W/ that said it will be the last gainer i buy.
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Posted: 5/29/2012 1:59:38 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:


I am short 5'3". again i don't want the physique of a body builder. Right now you could say i am as slim as somebody like Bruce lee but would like to be bigger than that, not huge but just bigger so perhaps extra 4kg's is alright!?!? Should be notes i want to put on weight especially on my chest as i've always been flat chested.

I have 2 kids and w/ work i dont have time for a PT. I gotta do this on my own which is great w/ me as i take this is a personal challenge.

I am a very hard gainer being naturally skinny all my life and the weight gain supps is just extra help for a slim hard gainer - surely it won't hurt in the bulking process for me?


Even tho u do not want to "look like a bodybuilder" you have to bulk up. You should aim for like 79-80 kg maybe, and then cut down to like 72 kg. That would be fine. You wont look like a bodybuilder just over a day, dont worry bout it brah. Its harder than u may think.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:


any chance you can give me carbohydrates reccomendations over calories? i'm used to counting carbs


Oats and rice/pasta are good sources, also from a health point of view. Also get some almonds and nuts, lots of calories along with proteins, and good fat too.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:


I just bought that one tub to help me along the way as i've really found it hard to gain the weight and i'll be on my 3rd month already come June. As somebody who has difficulty gaining i don't think it can hurt to take it. W/ that said it will be the last gainer i buy.



I didn't mean it in that way. Because liquids are the best way to get easy calories! I just meant that it's a waste of money. U should instead buy Whey and Carbs because it's cheaper. Or you could make your own shakes like; Whey + Oats + Carbs. U could extend that to; Whey + Oats + Carbs + Quark + Frozen Berries + Milk + Almonds. So don't get me wrong; "weight gainer" is fine but Whey + Carbs is a better solution.
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Posted: 5/30/2012 1:26:52 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Asomugha:



Even tho u do not want to "look like a bodybuilder" you have to bulk up. You should aim for like 79-80 kg maybe, and then cut down to like 72 kg. That would be fine. You wont look like a bodybuilder just over a day, dont worry bout it brah. Its harder than u may think.

WHOA you want me to add 22 kg's???? i know from these two months that that would literally take the rest of this year and most of next year to do. I'd like to add that sort of bulk if i wasn't active but i also play basketball and that would just be too much weight as i am a point guard and need quickness. My aim is around 4-5kg's. i think that would be perfect for me right now.
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You should aim for like 2 kgs a month, so that would be 24 kgs a year, and then you can cut down of course. You wont be slow with a weight of 79 kgs down worry, just train your legs and you will be even more explosive. U could change the 80 kg to 75 kg, and then if you cut down to 70 kg u will be a good guard.
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no need to bulk up if your natural most likely youll just end up looking fat now if your doing some testost u can get away with eating anything.But if you want to change your physice do this for 1 month.
chicken and rice 3-4 times a day the next day tuna 3-4 times then the next fish 3-4 times a day then repeat youll be shittin yourslef when you look in the mirror.Now if you like that puffy look which is a cool look but most likely youll have litlle to no visible abs then i would recoomend eating basically anything and everything and make a high calorie shake after working out
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Asomugha why do you have that avatar...dude is a freak with a small behind waist and tiny legs. He cant even throw a fuckin punch.
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Tiny legs? ohh, that was a cool story bro...
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Well i ended up putting on 4kg in 3 months. I had to stop it at that because my gut is getting bigger and it's going to take alot of hard training and dedication getting this down as i will be 35 in July and harder to lose belly fat after 30.

So now that i have put on some significant weight i'm currently in shredding mode. So back on the low carb diet, more interval training/cardio & lighter weights/higher reps - i'm actually doing the Bruce Lee technique of light to heavy weights.

Also i think it was Search who recommended the boiled eggs, peanut butter and vit d milk. I'm still eating this even though i'm no longer gaining. I never mixed it w/ vit d milk instead i used just full cream milk or cottage cheese. but now i'm using almond milk and still using cottage cheese. I also mix it up sometimes boiled eggs w/ cottage cheese and peanut butter. Or Tuna cottage cheese. Or Cottage Cheese/Avocado.

Still days I'm lifting heavy weights to maintain the bulking but also lots of light weights/high reps for toning. To tell you the truth i'm glad i'm no longer trying to gain as i didn't enjoy consuming all the garbage food i had given up for several years prior. I'm really glad to be back on the health kick and consuming proper nutrients.

Thank you all for your help with all the replies. Greatly appreciated
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Posted: 7/10/2012 3:24:37 PM
Glad you're doing good, but you wont get "toned" because youre doing lighter weights and higher reps, thats a myth bro.

Lift heavy, especially when cutting, otherwise u will lose too much strength.
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