What bettors need to know: Denver vs. Cleveland

By T.O. WHENHAM | November 5, 2008 | 23 comments
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Denver Broncos at Cleveland Browns (-3, 46)

Line Movement

The line opened at the key number of three it still sits there at most betting shops. It can be found in several places at 3.5, though. It's not a huge move, but it's still intriguing because the action is split roughly evenly between the two teams, with just over half of all bets placed being on the Broncos. The fact that the line has moved off the key number despite that could suggest that there is smart money in play and it’s on the home team.

Weather

Cleveland can be an ugly place to be, but that won't be the case Thursday night. Temperatures are expected to be a mild 66 degrees at kickoff. Precipitation is highly unlikely and the wind won't be a significant factor. It will be showcase conditions for football.

Total

The total opened at 46.5 and is now available there and at 46. The teams have met each of the last two seasons (last year's was a preseason game), and they have gone under much smaller totals both times.

 

The Broncos began the year as an over machine, but their offense has sputtered and in the last four weeks they have gone under three times and pushed once. The Browns have also tended towards the under, not exceeding the total in two of their last three and five of eight on the year.

 

This is the largest total that the Browns have faced since Week 1 against Dallas, while 46 is tied for the second lowest the Broncos have faced all season.

Some guy from Notre Dame


One storyline dominates all others in this game: Brady Quinn will make his long awaited debut at quarterback. For a season and a half now, Quinn has been assured of being the most popular guy in Cleveland. Now he actually has to prove that he can play. The expectations are high, but the standard hasn’t exactly been lofty with Derek Anderson this season.

Quinn has just eight career passes and he has a short week of practice to get ready. On the other hand, he must know the offense like the back of his hand by now and his first opponent could hardly be better if it was hand-picked - the Broncos have the fourth worst defense in the league.

 

The lackadaisical play of the offense lately - notably including an obscene number of dropped passes by Braylon Edwards - must have to do with a lack of respect for Anderson given his struggles. The short term success Quinn enjoys will be determined largely by his ability to get the checked out players to check back in.

Who is in charge?


The change in quarterback isn't the only big issue facing the Browns. It seems like there could be a power struggle under way between the coaching staff and the front office.

 

Coach Romeo Crennel stated on Monday there would not be a change in quarterback. Just hours later, it was announced that Quinn would get the start. Crennell insists that the decision was his and that he just changed his mind, but that seems hard to believe. Cleveland isn't exactly playing great football, and it is hard for a team to turn things around when the players don't know who to listen to.

It doesn't help, either, that the team is playing out like a soap opera. The Kellen Winslow drama is the most obvious example, but far too much of the team's laundry is being aired in public.

 

Last year the Browns seemed like the perfect, happy family. Now they look just as dysfunctional as the rest of us.

Where has all the offense gone?

In the first three games of the season the Broncos averaged 38 points per game and won all three. Since then they have averaged just over 15 per game and they are 1-4.

 

Starting quarterback Jay Cutler hasn't been hurt and he is still passing for lots of yards - 307 in his last game. He just isn't nearly as crisp as he was to start the season with more mistakes and fewer big plays. Brandon Marshall has done a gradual, predictable shift from receiving star to whiny malcontent.

The most striking problem, though, is the running game. This team has been in the top 10 in the league in rushing since 2000. This year, though, they are just 18th. They have had just one 100-yard rusher all year.

Rock bottom was emphatically reached last week when they managed just 14 yards rushing against the Dolphins. Miami's run defense is good, but not that good. Cleveland’s 25th best defense may be just what Denver needs to turn things around.

23 comments
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nc1capper says:
11/06/08 12:14AM

will pass on this tilt and look to get the college gravy train rolling back down the tracks, BOL this weekend fellow players

doobiebrother says:
11/06/08 08:53AM

9-3 (+17.2) last week, looking to start this week strong tonight. May play all 3 games, but wanted to post this one early before line moves. NFL 31-17 (+31.0)

Browns (-3) - Denver is one of the worst teams in the NFL right now. Not only are they 0-7 ATS in L7, but horrible on the road going 2-8 SU L10, 3-12 ATS L15, and losing L2 by combined 74-23 at NE & KC. Broncos decimated with injuries. Top 3 RBs are out, and starter will be rookie Torrain, who missed entire preseason and 1st 7 regular season games with broken elbow. Defense has 2 interceptions all year and is without Pro Bowl CB Bailey, S McCree, and leading tackler LB Williams, who’s backup is an undrafted rookie. Broncos #32 in NFL in TO margin (-11), while Browns are +4. Cleveland best “bounce back” team in NFL at 9-0 ATS off a L, and 7-0 ATS after allowing 30>. Only uncertainty of new QB keeps this from being my NFL GOY.

3 Browns -3

doobiebrother says:
11/06/08 09:00AM

Oops, forgot to mention huge gap in schedule strength (Browns #2, Broncos #31).

doobiebrother says:
11/06/08 09:11AM

Oops, also forgot to mention that Browns have scored 62 in L2 at home vs. Giants and Ravens, #2 and #3 in NFL total defense.

indrep says:
11/06/08 09:37AM

POD

****Cleveland -3 -115. A four star is one of my strongest plays. I'm 3-0 this year since January. They are rare for me.

Denver is still very overrated and is still getting love based on prior reputation. They are a bad football team.

Cleveland is the preverbial yo-yo team this year. win, lose, win, lose. You get the picture.

Here is the deal. Brady Quinn is starting for the Browns tonight. The crowd will be NUTS tonight. Also, Denver has had only three days to prepare for a QB with unknown tendancies.

Cleveland will have a similar effort tonight as they did against the Giants.

Oh yeah, you can bet against them the following week.

ffeennerr says:
11/06/08 09:46AM

even with quinn I like browns

1Hit_TakeAll says:
11/06/08 10:41AM

** True .. CLEVELAND's seem like a teams good to bet on it and go for it by -3 but in my mind with any reason: i don't know how and why ?

Dropping to my system will be DENVER plus OVER

Since so:

I'm going with DENVER and OVER for tonight's my 2 hit

** Nice to meet you all and best of luck this weeken

___

byang_02 says:
11/06/08 11:18AM

I like CLE and also being home should help...they've been chanting for QUINN 1.5 yr and now they got him...he is the biggest thing in CLE...now prove it that you are worth it and it's true...only bench QB that has his own commercial....BROWNS (-3)...also what's the record this year with 2nd strings getting the start??? it's damn sure more wins than lost!!!! BOLA!

Bostonthisyear says:
11/06/08 12:18PM

Well denver has lost 6 in a row ats... i think its time for them to win 1 ats.... so im thinking 20-21 score..... and under since i put 2500 on under!!!

martclif says:
11/06/08 12:58PM

if 3 or less turnovers, this game is a no brainer.Under.

martclif says:
11/06/08 01:02PM

Just a thought. Bill Parcells coaches The Cleveland Browns. And Modell can't fire him (New Englands coach is?).

rick3117 says:
11/06/08 02:01PM

I will get sucked into the hype and donk off a unit, I really want to root for this kid

local_yocal says:
11/06/08 03:12PM

let me know how it feels to cough up 2500....ouch! :(

yef says:
11/06/08 04:08PM

brady quinn blows. everyone is all over his nuts because he went to notre dame. dude is worthless except for his sister. she is nails. with that said doncos are pathetic. so ill take the browns and brady but only because of his S.I.L.F.

msohn says:
11/06/08 06:41PM

In the past few years, following similar 3-4 game losing funks, the Broncos have surprised me to win games both at home and on the road. This year seems different. The injuries may be too big to overcome. The defense has looked helpless for most of this year, although they showed moments of strength against Miami. I don't know the Browns nearly as well but I don't think that the Broncos will be able to do anything on their part to cover.

shane_sports says:
11/06/08 06:45PM

gotta take the under at 46 in this one...

expertcapone says:
11/06/08 07:28PM

Too much of the public is now on Cleveland. I can't put my money on a team that the public is all over. Denver is due to play well. They are a better football team than they have showed in the past month. I think they feel like they need to win this game and they will be just as pumped up as Cleveland will be. I also cant trust a QB making his first NFL start. I dont even understand why they are making this change...but thats another story. After alot of thought I've decided to take Denver +3 and Denver moneyline. I just can not see Denver getting smoked again...they should have some respect for themselves considering they are really a decent football team. Good Luck...I suggest u guys take my advice and go with the Broncos tonight

NickCapone says:
11/06/08 07:30PM

Indrep ..i understand the browns can win this game. But how are you making it one of your strongest plays of the year when you have no idea what to expect out of Brady Quinn...Hes 24 year old kid who has only thrown a few passes in an NFL game, and they are putting him out there mid-season on a nationally televised game. Broncos have been shaky but they have the talent to take over this game. Yes, anything can happen, Browns can win, but strongest play of the year?.. i dunno

magicman1642 says:
11/06/08 07:52PM

as much praise there is for the browns, their still the browns. they very well might get er done tonight, but we'll need to see what quinn is going to brinmg to the game. i will only lay my $$$'s on the under tonight, as i see alot of ground work here. could be a 12 - 9 kinda game here tonight. gl all peace

cyearian says:
11/06/08 08:06PM

Here is my dilema - I hate betting against teams that have lost 4 straight ATS let alone 7. As for the Denver being horrible - has nobody watched Clevelend this year? There is only one game they didn't give up a 100yrd rusher. Throw in the fact that Quinn is starting - I think denver rolls after their embarrassment last week.

As for the O/U in order for Denver to win they will have to score so I do like the Over here as well.

BOL

indrep says:
11/06/08 08:28PM

NickC - Quinn is a talent that will excel with this chance. His teammates will be stoked and play at a high level. The Defense will be jazzed. The noise level will be intense. Oh and at last check - Denver sucks. To many injuries. Short week. Preparing for a new QB. This is an easy play on the Browns.

Ghostdog says:
11/06/08 09:14PM

I gotta take the under at 46 in this one and Cle (-3).

expertcapone says:
11/07/08 04:20AM

Just about everyone who posted here either had cleveland or the under or both. Denver wins just as I expected and wrote up in my post :-)

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