US election betting: Obama takes big lead

By LOGANS.COM | October 30, 2008 | 36 comments
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After an unprecedented amount of money spent on a Presidential campaign, culminating with a $4-million, 30-minute ad buy on seven different networks during primetime hours, Barack Obama has undoubtedly seized all the momentum of this 2008 Presidential election.  

“Political campaigns are all about exposure and momentum, there is no doubt that heading into the final days of this election Obama has both” says chief oddsmaker Blake Edwards of Logans.com

Obama has nearly doubled John McCain in fund raising, raising nearly $650 million which dwarfs McCain’s $360 million. No more was that money advantage evident than on “Big Wednesday,” when Obama began to close out the presidential campaign with his primetime pitch and leaving McCain to respond with just one interview on CNN’s Larry King. Obama didn’t stop there, his night culminated with a rally in Florida where he shared the stage for the first time during his campaign with former President Bill Clinton. 

“Florida is considered a battle ground state and Obama and Clinton campaigning together in a state where Clinton is loved pretty much clinches that state going blue,” says Edwards. A Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll of likely voters taken Oct. 25-27 found Obama leading McCain 50 percent to 43 percent in Florida.

While Obama has all the momentum and money, John McCain isn’t laying down just yet. Oddsmakers had Obama set at -700 last week, but his price has jumped to -1000 since.

''The pundits have written us off several times before. They were wrong before and they are wrong now,'' McCain said Wednesday in Florida. 

No one can question McCain’s toughness nor his ability to comeback. He’s been written off several times in this election, only to prove everyone wrong. But many experts believe the only way this maverick can win on Tuesday would be what experts call the “Bradley Effect.” The Bradley Effect is named after former Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley and his losing the 1982 California governor’s race.  Bradley was leading by a large margin going into Election Day, but the polls were wrong and Bradley ended up losing. The theory was that polling was wrong because some voters, who did not want to appear bigoted, said they voted for Bradley even though they did not. 

"It leaves a question mark over this race, and we won't have the final answer until the votes are counted," said David Gergen, a senior political analyst for CNN. 

“The closer we're getting to the actual election, the more and more it looks like Obama is the winner," Edwards says. "There's no chance for an "October Surprise" and all the polls are in, now it’s just a matter of if the polls are right.  Obama is now a prohibitive favorite at -1000.  Betting slowly started to come in more and more over the weekend.  We've been pretty aggressive moving off money as well as moving off the mood and sense throughout the country that Obama will win on Tuesday.”

“Right now there's so much money on this event that the tens of thousands of dollars that came in over the weekend doesn't really affect the trends that much.  It’s about decimal points if anything.”

As of Monday 54 percent of the money is on Obama, with 46 percent down on McCain.

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earth420 says:
10/31/08 11:30AM

This is just another place to give Obama a boost, like he needs it. Ask yourself where all these campaign donations came from. Could it be from sources like Iraq and Afghanistan, who would revel in a change of power they can control, unlike the GOP? Well, the best I can hope for is that your choice is wrong as are so many of yours and the public's. People are being hypnotized by Obama's rhetoric and forgotten to REALLY look into this man's background and ties. If they did, they would be appalled and not be so anxious to get on his bandwagon. Sen. McCain said in one small phrase the truth and everyone has blown it off ..."I am not George W. Bush!" He has a true interest in helping AMERICA! and not his close friends.

GeorgeCarlin says:
10/31/08 12:58PM

waaah-waaaaah-waah

Get off your behind and do what most disgruntled right wingers do: Form an assassination plot, politcal or otherwise.

Or STFU and support your President!

Maestro664 says:
10/31/08 01:22PM

Carlin - you give the man a bad name using his name.

I do support our President. Do you our are you already thinking ahead.

I love the get off your behind comment - because you got it backwards pal the right wing works and saves and lives.

You left wingers suck off of the workers and are no better than parasites on a dying animal. the good ole USA is a dying animal with wild cards like this Obama character, He is laughing at all the fools he has fooled.

Maestro

Maestro664 says:
10/31/08 01:22PM

Bush is the President - what support have you provided lately GC?

indrep says:
10/31/08 02:20PM

Obama as president =

many layoffs

higher taxes - expect to pay $1000 more per year.

Unsafe country - he will cut defense

Liberal justices - Accused rights before victim rights.

Make no mistake - If he is not the antichrist he is the closest thing to it. Antichrist by definition is one who comes to power by fooling the masses.

We have a ton of fools in America that are going to vote for this chump.

goinggone says:
10/31/08 03:32PM

Why so bitter.

Repubs can't win all the time.

tommybahama says:
10/31/08 04:28PM

it'll be the second return of a Jimmy Carter type president. 20% interest rates and a destroyed military. it will be interesting to see Obama Binden reinstate the Draft because who'd who sign up for that guy and know that he'll against funding the military with the tools they need to defend this great country.

Its a shame because look what Castro did to Cuba etc etc etc

God Bless us all

indrep says:
10/31/08 04:59PM

Everybody wants to blame Bush. Truth be told. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and the Democratic party bare a ton of responsibility for our economic collapse. They just sat back and let it happen because they know Americans are stupid enough to blame the president.

Research the issues folks.

tommybahama says:
10/31/08 05:30PM

Blame the Democrates, because they felt if you could fogged a mirror you deserved a home loan. Bill Clinton to be specific and dear Barney Frank. While Congress and the rest of the country scratched their heads trying to figure out how we got into this mess, 60 Minutes decided to go to Frank Partnoy, a law professor at the University of San Diego, who has written a couple of books on the subject.

Ask to explain what a derivative is, Partnoy says, "A derivative is a financial instrument whose value is based on something else. It's basically a side bet."

Think of it for a moment as a football game. Every week, the New York Giants take the field with hopes of getting back to the Super Bowl. If they do, they will get more money and glory for the team and its owners. They have a direct investment in the game. But the people in the stands may also have a financial stake in the ouctome, in the form of a bet with a friend or a bookie.

"We could call that a derivative. It's a side bet. We don't own the teams. But we have a bet based on the outcome. And a lot of derivatives are bets based on the outcome of games of a sort. Not football games, but games in the markets," Partnoy explains.

Partnoy says the bet was whether interest rates were going to go up or down. "And the new bet that arose over the last several years is a bet based on whether people will default on their mortgages."

And that was the bet that blew up Wall Street. The TNT was the collapse of the housing market and the failure of complicated mortgage securities that the big investment houses created and sold around the world.

But the rocket fuel was the trillions of dollars in side bets on those mortgage securities, called "credit default swaps." They were essentially private insurance contracts that paid off if the investment went bad, but you didn't have to actually own the investment to collect on the insurance.

"If I thought certain mortgage securities were gonna fail, I could go out and buy insurance on them without actually owning them?" Kroft asks Eric Dinallo, the insurance superintendent for the state of New York.

"Yeah," Dinallo says. "The irony is, though, you're not really buying insurance at that point. You're just placing the bet."

Dinallo says credit default swaps were totally unregulated and that the big banks and investment houses that sold them didn't have to set aside any money to cover their potential losses and pay off their bets.

"As the market began to seize up and as the market for the underlying obligations began to perform poorly, everybody wanted to get paid, had a right to get paid on those credit default swaps. And there was no 'there' there. There was no money behind the commitments. And people came up short. And so that's to a large extent what happened to Bear Sterns, Lehman Brothers, and the holding company of AIG," he explains.

In other words, three of the nation's largest financial institutions had made more bad bets than they could afford to pay off. Bear Stearns was sold to J.P. Morgan for pennies on the dollar, Lehman Brothers was allowed to go belly up, and AIG, considered too big to let fail, is on life support to thanks to a $123 billion investment by U.S. taxpayers.

"It's legalized gambling. It was illegal gambling. And we made it legal gambling…with absolutely no regulatory controls. Zero, as far as I can tell," Dinallo says.

"I mean it sounds a little like a bookie operation," Kroft comments.

"Yes, and it used to be illegal. It was very illegal 100 years ago," Dinallo says.

Slimdaddy2004 says:
10/31/08 05:47PM

If you truly study politics in a non-partisan way, you would underdtand that Obama is not nearly as liberal as President Carter. In fact, he is more like a Clinton Democrat than anything else. After reading his memoires, I would say that he is more conservative than Clinton. For a moment forget about the retoric being spewed during the election. Both candidates are saying whatever their base wants to hear to get elected; much like Bush did twice! Once in office, minds can change as long as the country is better off for it except for the people who have "picked a side".

Many of you on here compaining are doing so just because "your side" will probably lose. I have no side, so I don't get caught up in the Democrat/GOP bulls*hit. Plus, I don't let the media spoon feed me all the information either. Go read the writings of Obama. Since Obama used to be president of the Harvard Law Review, it is not that hard to do. It may help you to understand what Obama REALLY believes in; unless you are one of those close minded/ingnorant individuals!

Slimdaddy2004 says:
10/31/08 06:00PM

Please stop getting all your information concerning politics from the traditional media. Read for yourselves.

Anyway, don't worry Republicans. Do you really think that most white Americans are going to vote for a black as president when it really counts?! Hell will freeze over before that happens! Sh*it the southern whites have not forgiven the Democrats for signing the Civil Rights Bill in the 1960s! Plus last I checked, over 75% of the voters in this country are White! I know no one wants to talk about race like it is going to get swept under a rug and go away, but that is not reality. Unfortunately, race is a huge issue in this great country of ours, and until I actually see McCain giving his concession speech, I will not believe white people are going to vote for Obama.

But truly as a non-paritsan observer, the race issue is the only way McCain can win.

tommybahama says:
10/31/08 06:14PM

If you truly study politics in a non-partisan way, you would underdtand that Obama is not nearly as liberal as President Carter. In fact, he is more like a Clinton Democrat than anything else?

Seriously?

There's middle left...and then there's left of left and he's way $%^&^%^%$ left of Bill, Big ankles and Ted Kennedy!

HMoney says:
11/03/08 02:28AM

Tough for McCain Great American- dumb decision for VP. But the bet has to go to Obama. Capping this is easy- lay the -700. It's like Stanford/Cal hail mary with laterals for McCain. BTW why didn't Texas fair catch that kickoff w/ 1 sec left. They would have gotten the ball on the 40 the TTech fans would have stormed the field (another 15 yd penalty) got 1 play from the 25 to throw a TD?? I wanted to see that to punish Coach Leach for not going for 2 up 5. what is being up 6 going to do? I could have hit the OVR 72 as well.

I hope it's not like the Primaries where i had to wait until the Convention to get paid. Cashing on Tues night would be nice I do not want to wait til Jan. I'll back any President who will fix our great country even if he is half-Kenyan half Frenchie. He's from freaking Hawaii.

Slobbasaurus says:
11/03/08 09:46AM

"You left wingers suck off of the workers and are no better than parasites on a dying animal."

True story.

Schmohawk says:
11/04/08 11:07AM

Indrep says:

Make no mistake - If he is not the antichrist he is the closest thing to it. Antichrist by definition is one who comes to power by fooling the masses.

We have a ton of fools in America that are going to vote for this chump.

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Once again, Indrep is showing his ignorance. Either that or he is trying to scare people. EVERYONE, go to dictionary.com and look up antichrist and you will see that it is not by definition someone who comes to power by fooling the masses. The main component of the antichrist is someone who is an ENEMY TO CHRIST! Hence the name, antichrist.

These kinds of comments are used to try to scare people into voting for McCain. These are the tactics of desperate people like Indrep.

I respect McCain but we need a new direction in this country. One last thing, the hate that I here spewing from people leading up to this election is really discouraging.

spdlmt says:
11/04/08 11:40AM

I wonder how a guy that goes to church for 20 years is the "antichrist" while the guy that never goes is a true christian? Talk about irony.

What happen to the Republican party? 3 wars, doubling national debt, HUGE goverment.... can you really call yourself "conservatives" anymore? Instead of offering solutions to the problem, you guys project fear and hate to try to sway voters. The economy is going in the toilet and your main concern is if the guy is Muslim or not. A poll in texas has 1 in 4 believing that he is Muslim.....that's some powerful ignorance.

Bush destroys the country. Mccain vote 90% in support of his policies. What does common sense tells you will happen?

KasperNV says:
11/04/08 12:12PM

Politians will always be the same. It doesn't matter who's in office, they are corrupt as they come.

nc1capper says:
11/04/08 01:10PM

yawn,,you guys are boring - this is a sports site, get over yourselves

Discover says:
11/04/08 01:22PM

Who the hell want to be president anyway, the pay suck, the stress is high, and everybody pick at everythings you do wrong. It doesn't matter who in office, the country is in big trouble. We are a slave to Mid East,we write checks that ours behind can't cash. We borrow money from China to buy oil from the Mid East. Does that look right to anybody? AS A COUNTRY WE ARE LOSING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quadro-Ferringo says:
11/04/08 01:35PM

HEY WHAT MATTERS HERE IS WHO BACKS OUR RIGHT TO ONLINE GAMING!

Barack Obama’s views are summarized here.

http://www.pokerlistings.com/election-2008-will-obama-help-online-poker-31956

John McCain’s views are summarized here.

http://www.pokerlistings.com/election-2008-mccain-hard-to-pin-down-32023

EV ERYTHING ELSE IS JUST A LONG LIST OF LIES AND A COIN FLIP AS TO WHO WILL BE THE BETTER PRES. SORRY FOR SHOUTING BUT U GUYS NEED TO TAKE THIS POLITICS CRAP SOMEWHERE ELSE.

This is for GAMBLERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Speedy_Claxton says:
11/04/08 02:06PM

i agree with Sonny legalize pot and gambling and you have my vote

tonktime says:
11/04/08 02:26PM

LOL!!! GOT THAT RIGHT!!! BRING BACK THE "X" PILLS TOO!!!

ch333chiro says:
11/04/08 02:51PM

Sonny - you got my vote too.... looks like your already on your way (form a party)...

Discover says:
11/04/08 02:53PM

You might as well legalize prostitution too, than you got my vote.

backdoorcoverLV says:
11/04/08 03:00PM

For 7 to one odds at my book, I had to lay some cash on McCain. Racism is racism and there just may be too many undercover racist in America for Barack to win. But hey at least if McCain wins our economy will be in the toilet, but I will have $1400.

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