Monday night debate: Cowboys at Bills

By RYAN STETSON AND ASHTON GREWAL | October 7, 2007 | 52 comments
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Ryan Stetson and Ashton Grewal are opinionated jackasses who never shy away from a debate. We let them battle it out on topics surrounding the ‘Boys and Bills. Find out who they like and their predicted final scores.

Can Dallas bettors bank on a continued over trend?

Ashton Grewal: The only thing that prevented the Cowboys from four-straight overs to start the season was a non-existent St. Louis Rams offense. Tony Romo looks comfortable and confident under new offensive coordinator Jason Garrett. I like the two-headed running attack with Julius Jones and Marion Barber, not to mention a receiver group exceeding expectations without Terry Glenn.

The only issue I have with the ‘Boys and the over is the number of penalties the offensive line is taking. Dallas is second only to the Baltimore Ravens in total penalties (32) and penalty yards (266). Sooner or later a good defensive team is going to make the Cowboys pay for their careless tendencies.

Ryan Stetson: Well, penalties have been an issue in Big D for a while now. Last year Big Tuna nearly had an aneurysm with “the player” jumping the gun out on the flank.

That said, this offense is probably second, and a close second, to New England’s right now and it doesn’t look like it will slow down anytime soon. Dallas’ defense will give up some big plays now and then too, so that helps. I don’t know how long this over trend will continue, but I’ll take over 45 points against this ragtag Bills defense any day.

Does Trent Edwards give the Bills a better chance to win than J.P. Losman?

Grewal: I’m impressed with the composure shown by Edwards – a rookie quarterback thrown into the starter’s job two weeks ago. He’s a calm, cool customer and plays like he’s got plenty of big-game experience in his rear-view mirror.

He must be a hell of an actor, because I don’t remember seeing any of those performances while he was at Stanford.

I know Stetson’s going to grill me on this, but Losman showed major progress last season. He’s got a big arm and he’s mobile. I wish Losman would consider all of his receivers rather than locking in on his first option. He’s still young enough to correct bad habits though.

I think Losman gives Buffalo a better chance to win this season. Next season might be a different story.

Stetson: Give me Edwards by a small landslide. I was just going over some notes I took a few weeks ago for our NFL power rankings and one just jumped off the page: J.P. Losman – Worst. Quarterback. Ever. 

I’ve never denied having a soft spot for hyperbole, so don’t take me literally here, but Losman is terrible. I hoped he had turned it around after last year too, but Edwards already looks more composed in the pocket. The rookie is the guy that finally got Lee Evans involved in the offense last week. If they don’t get some plays over the top for Evans, their offense stalls as teams stack the line to slow down Marshawn Lynch. We haven’t seen much of Edwards yet and I already feel more comfortable putting down a Buffalo bet when he’s taking the snaps.

What is the Cowboys’ biggest weakness?

Grewal: I don’t like Dallas’ defensive line. The front three of Marcus Spears, Jeremiah Ratliff and Chris Canty isn’t scaring anybody. The numbers for the Cowboys’ run defense are respectable only because opponents trail by three scores in the third quarter and have to abandon the ground game.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is concerned. Why else would he bring in Tank Johnson to play nose tackle, a position unfamiliar to him? Jason Ferguson was supposed to be the glue of the D-line but a biceps injury has him on the shelf the rest of the year.

I’m certain Jones is keeping his fingers crossed that the Browns’ first-round pick (owed to Dallas from last year’s draft) will be high enough to nab LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey.

Stetson: I’m more concerned about the secondary. Dallas has a few big-play guys like Roy Williams and Anthony Henry out there who do make big plays – sometimes. Other times these DBs will sell out to try to make a pick or a hit in the backfield only to end up eating turf while a big play goes the other way.

The Cowboys are in the middle of the pack, allowing 219 yards a game through the air to go along with nine interceptions. It’s a risk-reward kind of thing. And it probably isn’t as big of a concern for the Cowboys as it would be for most teams because their offense has done more than enough to sweep those mistakes in the secondary under the rug.

Last year Buffalo covered seven of its final nine games. Do you think there’s a chance for a repeat performance?

Grewal: Sorry Buffalo backers, but I don’t see a strong ATS season for the Bills. Their defense started the year weaker than last season’s unit and a pile of injuries has only worsened the situation.

I like the fact the Bills still have two games against the Dolphins and one against the Jets left on the schedule, but I don’t see this team finishing better than 7-9 against the spread.

Stetson: I agree. But if Buffalo does get to seven or even eight covers, somebody’s gotta throw this squad a party. There’s just not much in the cupboard right yet. While that could change as early as next season if the Bills stick with their kids, they’re really stuck with all those injuries right now.

Who you got?
Grewal: 28-13 Dallas
Stetson: 34-17 Dallas

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sean2114 says:
10/07/07 07:10PM

i think buffalo keeps this one close, dallas wins 20-13

n_lochs says:
10/07/07 09:57PM

Marshawn Lynch 27 carries 143 yds. 2 td's tommorrow night

JRW says:
10/07/07 10:51PM

This game will be close in the 1ST Q, but the start of the 2nd the BOYS will start to put it on them!

Cowboys 34

Bills 10

atssports says:
10/07/07 11:31PM

Grewal: I don’t like Dallas’ defensive line. The front three of Marcus Spears, Jeremiah Ratliff and Chris Canty isn’t scaring anybody. The numbers for the Cowboys’ run defense are respectable only because opponents trail by three scores in the third quarter and have to abandon the ground game.

Dallas 31 NYG 19 End of 3rd

Dallas 20 MIA 13 End of 3rd

Dallas 17 CHI 10 End of 3rd

Dallas 35 STL 7 End of 3rd (14-7 at the half).

No one thinks the Cowboys are 4-0 ATS because of their defense anyway, but it would help if your facts matched your assertion.

atssports says:
10/07/07 11:42PM

Sorry meant to say if the facts matched your assertion. I'm not trying to be an behind or anything, I just think it is a misconception that Dallas is blowing teams out early, the fact is none of these teams have much of a running game to abandon in the first place and Dallas has worn teams down and stretched out their lead in the 4th quarter. In the Miami game and Chicago game turnovers aided Dallas in stretching their lead. NYG trailed by 3 with about 4 or 5 mins left. In the STL game they led 35-7 at the end of the 3rd and it was obvious to all that the only way STL was going to score on offense was if Dallas went into the locker room.

swamppdonkey77 says:
10/08/07 12:27AM

Don't see anyway that the bills can keep up with Dallas offense, only way Bills cover is turnovers, the same way Chicago might as we speak

n_lochs says:
10/08/07 12:46AM

Ill be there tomorrow night to watch the BILLS slap the COWBOYS

goinggone says:
10/08/07 01:07AM

BUF keeps it close

Buff +10

phancard says:
10/08/07 01:48AM

Under 45pts

BHAHN1 says:
10/08/07 02:32AM

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BHAHN1 says:
10/08/07 02:34AM

AND IF YOU CAN STILL GET HE COWDOYS AT -10 TAKE IT NOW THATS A STEAL IMO.

Breakbeat_king says:
10/08/07 03:48AM

a pro capper should never use the excuse: "one off day"...LoL... what a loser that camp dude is... i'd never pay him for his so-called picks... in todays new football handicapping age- its the so-called pro cappers that suck, and us real humans that have the capping knowledge... case in point---> the so-called pro handicappers made USC a 41point Fav over stanford...LMFAO... yeah real good handicapping by the so-called "pros"... Never pay for picks. use your own research & computer handicapping software!!!!... USC -41 points hahaha... they barely beat wash the week before... no reason to be 41 point favorites...lololol

GoodLuck all (& stay away from college football "favorites" this year & next year;)

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10/08/07 03:50AM

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10/08/07 05:16AM

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cjbestwralltime says:
10/08/07 09:58AM

who are all these loser touts?

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10/08/07 11:12AM

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bikinibabesrbes says:
10/08/07 12:19PM

This game should be over by the half.....and take a look at Dallas in the second half of there first games...they are great....a lock!!!...haaaa.....only at the hardware store!!!...this is Monday Night Football...throw everything out the window...going with the over!

simsity19 says:
10/08/07 01:01PM

Dallas 49

Buf 24

Dallas will make a statement to NE....... You better get ready for a WAR!!!!!

adzack3441 says:
10/08/07 01:16PM

Fade everything that is posted about a specific game here on covers by a staff writer. I'm not trying to say anything about myself but their picks are flat out awful. Sure Dallas looks like a play here, having been so dominant. However, as soon as these two picked them...I'll fade them.

Rizaqboi23 says:
10/08/07 01:38PM

The bills offense...is offensive. They could possibly be the worst single unit in the NFL. I couldnt imagine betting on them, even being an extreme anti-cowboy like myself the pick is dallas/under. Even with a defense that can give up big plays like Dallas, the Bills will not score more than 10...the rest of the season. Total.

Patriotnation says:
10/08/07 01:39PM

Cowboys will pull away late ala the Patriots setting up a huge battle of the 5-0's

next week. Buffalo is a good 1st half pick, but look 4 Romo & T.O. to pour it

on late.

Boys 31 - 14

P.S. Patriots will expose this inflated NFC Crusierweight, BOOK IT!

ddi104 says:
10/08/07 01:57PM

take Dallas and under. Both or 1 will hit for sure. Lynch blows

Kurupt_75 says:
10/08/07 01:59PM

Listen the Bills are what they are...they were going to be an average defensive unit going into the season with their starters, now with all of those injuries, it's worse. Plus starting a rookie QB is bound to bite them, Edwards and the Bills were hardly tested by a mediocre Jets team last week, and needed gang busters and some Chad Pennington ineptitude just to win.

The Cowboys are a big step up, and I don't see how the boys in Orchard Park keep up in this one. Can they win or cover? Sure they can, but they're gonna need at least 2 Dallas turnovers to pull that off, and I don't see that happening.

Bills should keep this close early, but Dallas will eventually overwhelm this undermanned team, and pull away in the second half.

Boys 34 Bills 17

Bank on it!

okido98 says:
10/08/07 02:04PM

My 2 cents guess:

Dallas 38 - Buffalo 17

(Buffalo is 1 - 3 = .250 pct team vs. Dallas is 4 - 0 = 1.000 team)

Good luck, all !

rockn4u says:
10/08/07 02:47PM

Dallas will probably win tonight. Not convinced there going to cover. I'm staying away. But to think there in the same class as the Patriots is nothing more than a Pipe Dream! I like Romo, and think he is going to be great in years to come. But Dallas is going to have a very hard time with the Pats Defense. Romo is very comfortable in the pocket, Pats Defense is going to Disrupt that rhythm, which will cause some INT's. Plus having a short week to prepare. I wouldn't be so quick to throw all my chips on Dallas vs NE.

GL All

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