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Haha, should have googled first. It was '05 for Bush. That should be the correct answer for Leinart (yet to google, lol). That would make Palmer the wrong answer for his first question.
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QBoption | 17 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Meetz: Matt Leinart in 04 Didn't Bush win it in '04?
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Quote Originally Posted by MNFLoser: The power conferences are pussies....they don't even want to play the others in a bowl game. TCU and Boise had to play back to back years and Utah had to play Boise this year. The Big Ten, SEC, and Pac 10 don't like the idea of having a non power conference team knock the piss out of them because it hurts the image of not allowing TCU or Boise in the title games. Boise beat the ACC champ this year and TCU beat the Big Ten champ. I'm sure if they played the Pac 10 or SEC champ the game would be a lot more competitive than most from the power conferences would want to admit and I live in Big 10 land. The 'problem' is the Big 6 conferences all have bowl agreements to guarantee certain teams in certain games based on conference finish. Boise had to play Utah because the WAC and the MWC can place the teams where they want. The big conferences don't get that option and it is strictly a business decision. They have guaranteed payouts based on those contracts. It is unfortunate that that ends up putting Boise against a team the rest of the nation would rather not see them play, but it isn't really an option unless they get in a BCS game where the bowl committee has more options to choose & even those are limited.
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VenomLugz | 106 |
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Quote Originally Posted by winwithwirth: This thread got so serious. Can't anyone just laugh anymore. Maybe he was referring to "them" as michievous youngsters. That is a possibility, ya know.
This ^ How about what he really meant: a joke. I laughed my ass off and I am, IMO, the furthest from a racist as possible. But I do like to laugh. Do you guys really think he would state this in person with a straight face and in all seriousness? I think you can take stereotypes and make a funny joke about them and find humor in it with out being racist. That particular joke could be about fb players in general also. We all know there are some crazy people of all races playing these games. |
Todays-Picks | 74 |
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Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant: PAC 10 just never plays well out in the South East. That's just not true. |
searchwarrant | 20 |
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Oops. Over 31. Apparently I didn't make that bet yet.
Doing it now at 31.
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baojohn | 8 |
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Yes. I love your avatar.
Oh, I think Stanford has a really special team this year. I played the Stanford team total Over 30.
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baojohn | 8 |
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Quote Originally Posted by GetEveryDollar:
...yes they did... ...they all celebrated by showering together and making their own gatorade...its a good thing that you, I and everybody else did not get to see it |
dangerousaction | 4 |
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You can just go to Phil Steele's site, but his picks are usually worthless. He's good if you like stats, but his picks are basically based solely on stats. We all know how accurate that can be, especially in bowl season.
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Sal2 | 7 |
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Not trying to convince the Auburn backers, preferably you move the line higher. This is for the Oregon backers.
It's funny how so many people think Auburn is going to blow out Oregon. Auburn didn't blow out a single team that is over .500 until the last game of the year and that was a rematch. (For the record, I don't consider the Arkansas game a blowout, because of the two egregious replay rulings that were not overturned and directly resulted in TD's for Auburn while the game was very close in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Not saying AU wouldn't have won without those calls, but the final score would not have been a 22 point victory.) So in this fantasy world of theirs, Auburn will play much like they did in the only game of theirs that they blew out an opponent that has a winning record, and their undefeated opponent (with the highest scoring offense in the nation and the 14th rated scoring defense, 26th total defense) will play like the only game they played this year where they were held to under 37 points (Cal, 15 points). Gee, I wonder why Oregon was the early favorite.
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investments4you | 54 |
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Quote Originally Posted by playerfly:
Good Luck Apocalypse, but I dont see where the SOS oregon -19 comes in , AU had on eof the toughest schedules known to a team this year and Oregons was probaly about 100 One big mitigating factor is whether you are playing at home or away. Auburn played 4 road games and Oregon played 6. And I don't know if they take into account the distance you have to travel for the away games, but they should. Everyone that has watched/bet these games for a long time knows the difficulty in playing on the road and especially travelling across country to do it. Heck even playing in extremely different weather can have a big effect on a team. Those factors can't be stressed enough when attempting to determine SOS. IMO, Oregon State had arguably the toughest schedule. On the road against three top ten teams (#3,#4, and #10) and home against the #2 team, 6 away games total, and the only two non AQ teams they played were on the road & ranked in the top ten (Boise & TCU). Someone please show me 13 schedules tougher than that.
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investments4you | 54 |
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Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater: just looked over these SOS rankings... hilarious that you call mine biased... 5 of the top 10 on that list are from the SEC... whoever made THAT list is the one who is biased... SEC.
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investments4you | 54 |
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mws,
That looks like solid advice to me. Wish I could tease the totals at my book. realscififan, IMO, you would be better off teasing the Auburn total down to 64 and take the over rather than taking a side. Both teams play hurry up/no huddle. A 7 point victory could be erased in seconds at any point in the game up to the very, very end. Since this is your last play and it will probably be for a lot of money (hopefully) that is a much safer bet. There will be between 160-200 offensive plays in this game most likely. Oregon averages 80/game and Auburn averages close to 70. But that's only 150 plays, you say? This is against teams that don't run the same kind of offense that they do. It's like putting two fast break basketball teams together. Even with great defenses, they get so many more opportunities to score. GL
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realscififan | 6 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom: I said last week that if this game were played the following weekend that Auburn would have crushed Oregon. BUT!!! The game is played 30 something days later.... Enough time to prepare better, enough time to get healthy, enough time for CAM to get his head full of shit, enough time for Chip to install even more wrinkles into his offense, enough time to BEAT Auburn in a one game, a one night 60 minute scenario. MY Opinion is .....Oregon wins this game SU Well put. Auburn definitely looked healthier to end the season. If they hadn't blown USCe out of the water and the season ended with the AL game, I think people wouldn't be so quick to jump on Auburn and not give OR a shot. The layoff definitely helps OR. Lamichael James was playing at about 70% for the last three games. Having him get healthy will make the biggest difference in this game. Also, Oregon's punter was out the last two games with mono. There were major kicking issues as he was the holder for the PAT's and FG's as well (after Costa was lost for the season). He is healthy again and will play. Lavasier Tuinei was out the last three games with a broken shoulder blade, but is expected back for the game as well. He is an excellent blocker and a solid receiver. Media are reading too much into the last three games for Oregon and the last game for Auburn, imo. Auburn backers, please disregard this info and bet that line up, please.
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1969USC | 12 |
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Quote Originally Posted by pdxhaggle: Orygun dux : that is all......easy money...wait for it to climb, then jump on that ml. |
irish2202 | 21 |
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Quote Originally Posted by kroch: VaTech wins this game outright. have you researched VaTech's bowl record? Stanford will just be happy to be there with a slow defense and no fans at the game. Seriously---bet only 10k fans show up from the Tree. That 'slow' defense posted three shutouts against AQ teams. Stanford fans will show up for the game. They can't seem to fill their stadium, but that seats 55k or so. They usually get in the 30-40k. That's more than enough to fill a bowl stadium with their allotment. I'm sure they have plenty of east coast alumni that would love to see them achieve their best record ever. A few other things: Their offense isn't much timing based. They will get that power game going from the first whistle. Luck is a great qb. Great touch and a good runner. Defense is way improved from last year. May not be great, but it won't hurt them at all. Actually quite good.
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jmilrod | 44 |
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Quote Originally Posted by evilelvis: NosDogg, Borrow money, max out ur credit cards, whatever, just put everything on this game. Auburn wins exactly as you predict...by at least 3 tds. Take Auburn and even parlay that shat with the OVER....I will switch it up a bit as Chip will get his... BUT STILL Auburn 49-28. Auburn - (anything under -20.5) 200 units Over - (whatever is left that you can bet) 200 units Loved and appreciate all u do...mu first year here but thanks. EE |
nostradamus12 | 135 |
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Over. There will probably be over 100 offensive plays per school since both teams run a hurry up no huddle offense. Oregon averages giving up 4.5/ play and Auburn 5.3/play.
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Absolutxedge22 | 2 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Absolutxedge22: Arizona State? So a team that is 6-6 is going to go all the way next year? Nebraska coming into the Big Ten I don't think so. ASU could be a dark horse. They only graduate 13 seniors, not starters, seniors. They lost 4 games by less than 4 points and played Stanford and Oregon tough and almost beat Wisconsin on the road. They have a lot of talent coming back. They also had the most or almost the most turnovers in FBS this season. Improving in this area alone could put them as a two loss team. So it's not out of the question, although just looking at 6-6 this year might give you a different impression.
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thegreyhound | 3 |
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Thanks for the info.
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tooez | 8 |
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