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Quote Originally Posted by papageorgio:
neither i nor bator has said anything like that. you are twisting things. i have laid down why i believe what i believe. i dont plan on either brady or manning having a bad game, i think both will play well, vey well. i have a small bet on Indy + over i think the score will be something like 38-31 38-28 for some reason i think indy scores 38
as for dominate. i think i watched that dominate team vs SD last week look pretty pathetic, THEY ARE NOT DOMINATE. they are scrappy with skilled veterans thats about it. SD domintaed that game thats what the whole country watched, they also watched SD make retarded penalties to keep NE in the game.
Indy can and will beat NE this week. that i am betting on. you can love brady and the pats of old all you want but if think they're the same or better now than you're very wrong. that miss cleo bitch earned every pennie on that phone call LOL what a game !!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:
No offense Mr. I. but what part of your Baltimore pick was inaccurate? When you post an opinion, you got to handle some rebuttals.
Come back to thread if New England loses and watch the pounding
I take. I dont see why you'd take a beating. I totally see why you think the patroits will win, but i think your playing on old news/views as is every pats backer. this pats team isnt is strong as teams before you can look at the regular season records and say they better but seriously watching them play you can see who they are. "they are who we thought they were and we let them off the hook (SD) " "if you want to crown their asses then crown em" sorry it fit what i said i couldnt resist writing that, i love that post game press conference.
If indy chokes this game away they aint gonna be shit in the future. Windows of oppurtunity are only open for soo long, the sacramento Kings were my favorite team in B-ball years ago and they blew their oppurtunity and now they're dog shit.
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Quote Originally Posted by cutebrute:
how much patience do you need to spend 20 seconds before you put a wager in to find the best line. those extra half points add up to a few extra wins and pushes per year. will probably increase your win percentage by 1% at least. for me personally, i hate it when i know that i did not have the best number that's out there. Its kinda funny that someone who makes a living off of sports betting wouldnt huh ??? Its like someone being a real estate agent but not having a cell phone. Logic tells you who tom is and who he isnt. anyone who makes a living off something especially gambling would be very aggressively looking for the best value available on every bet they made. maybe he's so good that he wins 80% of his bets and doesnt need to shop around.
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Quote Originally Posted by afrolovv:
Amazing how two very astute, very experienced gamblers can be on such diametrically opposite sides of this game. Mr. B. is extremely confident in the Colts, making them (possibly) the largest wager of the entire season and giving them a 95% probability of winning the game outright...and then Tom here, gambling on sports for 30 years and supporting himself with his gambling winnings for the last 14 years, making a statement like the one above!
What's a rank amateur like myself supposed to do??
Hmmm, pass?
yeah Tom is a great capper 200+ posts mostly from this thread. anyone who would mention my use dominate instead of dominant tells me alot about him.
Quote Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:
You are right TY Law was a big factor.
Rodney Harrison playing could make up the difference. Last i heard rodney harrison wasnt playing but he doesnt matter if he does play it would only help indy, the guy is injured. I hope he plays
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Quote Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:
Papa,
The Pats have won five straight, eight of their last nine,
are 8-1 on the road and are 14-4 this year.
What, exactly, is your definition of dominant?
Scrappy teams are 10-8, not fourteen and four.
The first year they won the Super Bowl, the Pats had more losses than this season.
You also employ the same strategy as Mr. B, every bad thing about Manning
you blow off, every bad thing about Brady is the reason the Pats are going
to lose.
Logic just doesn't work that way.
March,
Thanks for the input, can't wait to Sunday!
C'mon man you are really struggling to make a weak point. neither i nor bator has said anything like that. you are twisting things. i have laid down why i believe what i believe. i dont plan on either brady or manning having a bad game, i think both will play well, vey well. i have a small bet on Indy + over i think the score will be something like 38-31 38-28 for some reason i think indy scores 38
as for dominate. i think i watched that dominate team vs SD last week look pretty pathetic, THEY ARE NOT DOMINATE. they are scrappy with skilled veterans thats about it. SD domintaed that game thats what the whole country watched, they also watched SD make retarded penalties to keep NE in the game.
Indy can and will beat NE this week. that i am betting on. you can love brady and the pats of old all you want but if think they're the same or better now than you're very wrong.
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another point about these teams and this game.
what makes a quarterback have a bad game ??? consent pressure, actually being sacked, good coverage, no success running the ball, having longer yardage 3rd downs to get.
manning was sacked 14 times fumbling 2 intercepted 9 times
brady was sacked 26 times fumbling 12 intercepted 12 times
i think theres another advantage for indy they can protect manning better allowing him to pick apart the defense. also they have a good chance of winning or atleast being even in the turnover battle which is always a huge + to winning games.
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Quote Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:
Papa,
Wouldn't have Peyton been chomping at the bit last week also?
His QB rating was 36.9.
P.S. I am not sure I would call a three time champion "scrappy"
Try "dominant" well mr.bator's answer to what i meant by scrappy is exactly what i meant by it. the few guys left make them scrappy not dominate now. They were dominate back then.
as for mannings Qb rating he was on the road and had a bad game, but baltimores defense is arguably the best in the league. actaully ratings wise they are the best in the league.
hell baltimore lead the league in interceptions and was 1 sack behind SD that defense can shut down any quarterback.
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Quote Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:
Mr. B,
More excellent points but allow me to play devils advocate.
I am going to disagree with you on Tom Brady's desire to win this
game.
I do not know if you played any high school or college sports but I did.
In high school we had a sports program that was the envy of the entire
east coast.
No matter how many times we won, ( we only had one loss in three years),
nothing and I mean NOTHING got us more stoked that hearing
about the next new kid on the block that was going to knock us off
our throne.
You are seriously underestimating a champion athelete's will.
Just ask the guys who played Michael Jordan in his prime.
And do not fool yourself, Tom Brady is in his prime.
michael jordan or tom brady didnt start off winning championships . their teams developed chemistry and gained experience and confidence as a team. brady is still in his prime but i believe his fellow teammates aren't. Manning and company are chomping at the bit to win and have what it takes to beat them now. I bet on new england to beat SD well atleast cover and when watching that game you can see the patroits dont have what it takes to dominate anymore. they only won becuase SD has mentally retarded players on the team. how you can get a personal foul after you stop your opponent ???? theres no excuse for that, he's as carlos mencia would say DeeeDeeeDeeeeeeeeee. New england is still a scrappy team with alot of veteran players that use their heads to play but they are not playing against DeeeDeeeDeeeeee's anymore.
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Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:
I'm not counting on him having another bad game. Brady can have a good game, or even a great game, but I'm betting that Manning will outshine him this time. Peyton Manning is sick of hearing about Tom Brady. Sick of it. He's had enough.
As motivated an athlete as Brady is, I believe his desire to win has slipped a notch or two, and how could it not? He's not chasing an elusive ring. He has nothing to prove, not to Manning, not to his own team, not to the rest of the league, and not to the fans. If Brady loses this game, he'll still be a Super Bowl hero. But if Peyton Manning loses this game, his reputation will be ruined, this time beyond repair. He will again be called a big game loser and who will be able to dispute it? This is the defining game of Manning's CAREER (to date). I am betting that this time, with the better team, home field, and the greater desire to win, he'll come up big. And if he doesn't? Well, then I'll join in and also call the guy a loser and remember to never again trust him in a big spot. But I don't think that's going to happen. Manning will play a great game on Sunday. He is not losing again to Tom Brady in the AFC Championship game. exactly.
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Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:
If you can honestly say when you watched new england beat san diego that there good enough to beat indy then you shouldnt bet on it and just watch the game. it wont be a close game. Very good post, papageorgio, because you agree with me. No, I'm just kidding, but while watching the Patriots and Chargers I said to someone on the phone "Would you want to have either of these teams in the (AFC) Final?" At many points in the game, both sides looked inept. Brady was missing open targets that he normally hits in his sleep. I didn't know what was wrong with him. exactly i bet on new england in about 4 different ways. I couldnt beleive my eyes brady turned into rex grossman (on his bad days). but the game went exactly as i thought it would, san diego just did not know how to win the game. i actually felt bad new england won and i had money on them ml thru live betting that i was gonna sell back at a profit but as the game kept going i was like SD is going to fully self destruct and it was worth the risk. i was only worried that the pats would lose by 13 or more, most of my money was in teasers. I fully thought the playoff experience of new england would keep the game close, 10 or under late in the game, i couldnt believe SD didnt give new england a heavy dose of LT in the 4th qtr/ hell the 2nd half.
the thing is about indy is they will not do what san diego did. they have been in the playoffs for a while now and they will fully enjoy beating New England and winning the superbowl as their time has come. dungy is not marty shitforluck and nobody will be giving new england the ball for a personal foul or any of the countless dumb mistakes san diego made.
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I think it was pretty obvious how/why new england won vs SD, it wont happen again. SD kept shooting themselves in the foot. they gave the game to new england. Brady had probably the worst game i've seen him play. new england was the cratfy veteran team vs San diego the more talented young team.
as for indy if you cant tell they are ready to win the super bowl then i think people are blind. their defense has stepped up big time now with sanders back. everyone knows the best way to beat indy was running the ball down their pathetic rush defense, keeping manning off the field and maybe getting a turnover or 2.
new englands run game is decent but i'm no fan of corey dillon, i think he'll get you 3yards/run if your lucky. Indy has been foaming at the mouth to win a championship and new england was the team that they couldnt beat before, well time is now on indy's side. new england isnt going to hang with them for 60 minutes. i think the game will get going early for indy, TD's this time manning is ready to have his time in the sun. addai and rhodes have become decent running backs and give them more balance before teams could just back up and play coverage. i never thought edgerrian james was good and he totalled up plenty of yards because teams had to respect indy's pass so much. the pats have to come to indy now and that will make it 10 times worse for them defensively, when the crowd is dead silent for payton and company audibles at the line of scrimmage.
If you can honestly say when you watched new england beat san diego that there good enough to beat indy then you shouldnt bet on it and just watch the game. it wont be a close game.
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tabasco did you win the prop bets ??
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https://www.boxofficereport.com/wbon/forecast.shtml this place expects 140mil
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JoeV55 | 13 |
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WIN WHAT ???
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