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Quote Originally Posted by 808pickyboy:
Alright guys, This is what I got so far as an overview of these two teams and the opinions of the past weekend. 1) First of all we all have to give credit to the Saints defense, backers or not, in helping in creating those 5 TO's. Farve and A.P. by all means did not intend to give those TO'S away willingly. They were created by presure to the QB, great tackles, and sub-concious mental error caused by the defense. This goes both ways. As an example for the TO by Regie Bush, he was scared of getting hit hard cause he pereferably saw the defense coming to hit him and was unable to secure the ball on the punt return. He put his head down and forgot he had to catch. As far as AD, those were great hits on the ball and good stripping by others. Farve got hit hard all day, I think about 18-20 times and after the first few, it was noticeable that he was hurting. It is human nature to be scared no matter how physically or mentally tough you are. 2) Yes the Saints only won by 3 points and as a Saints fan, I will agree that they got lucky to have gotten that INT in the fourth quarter intead of being down by a FG with only 19 seconds left. One thing I do see as the differense between the 2 winning teams as why their performance was so is that Colts were playing the #1 defense, yes, but a non-rested defense. Jets have been banging it out every week since week 5 I believe. The Vikings on the other hand, although not ranked #1 in defense but still respectable, had a bye week and time to rest. The Saints defense held a team which is capable of scoring in the 40's to just 28 points. The Vikings as well got lucky as I saw many times Saints had the chance of opening up the game by just simply recovering the fumbles instead of trying to pick it up and running. Both QB's as experienced as they were, was throwing balls into coverage that makes you say" What The F@#$". 3) J.Shockey, who is a huge part of the Saints offense, was not a big factor in this game because of the limited playing time due to his knee injury. He will be in against the Colts and healthy enough to make a statement. As far as head to head in the Super Bowl, At this time, I am leaning towards NO Saints SU win, due to the fact that they have a well balanced team right now. They keep their Running Backs fresh from constant substitution. NE Patriots(Great Passing Team) had a good chance to beat the Colts but one thing that is obviously different from the Patriots is that the Saints is not "1 DIMENSIONAL" as far as offense. Colts is more of a passing team than a running team, and the Saints "D" has recently proven with proper time to prepare against one team, they get the job done. This game could go both ways but I do think , unbiasly, that the Saints have more arsenal on offense and as a fresh and healthy unit, their defense could be the #4 ranked "D" from early in the season. They create turnovers. Manning is a great QB but Farve is one of the greatest. Saints has had more success ATS and SU against the Colts than the Vikings. Just my thoughts for right now. Early lean on the Saints SU win and I do see the OVER as a big possibility. ALOHA 808PICKYBOY
Get out of town!!! You like the Saints to win straight up!?!? What a crazy monumental surprise!! Wow your research really gave you a solid and unbiased opinion on the game, huh? ~ if only there was an ignore user feature my forum would only be 4 pages instead of 8. Please stop posting every hour of the day, go to the beach or go for a hike or something dude. ~ IrishEyez i love the money line point you make. But i think the spread for this game should be 6 or higher, the fact that NO is sort of america's darling has kept the spread where it is IMO. Its like a cowboys game, the spread is always a point or two off. Therefore i think the Colts are a good bet, stealing a couple points off the spread from the Saints bandwagoners.
Peyton probably will not get hit 1/4 of the times that Favre got hit so that factor will weigh heavily. If Favre doesn't get hit 1000 times last week I think the Vikings with that game.
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This site needs an 'ignore user' feature so we can weed out all the riff raff - posting more than 3-4 times in a thread means you are probably not talking about the actual game anymore. Posting 18 times on a thread and you are most likely being annoying...trying to drive away good cappers providing solid information is just not for this forum. As for the game, I think the Jets are looking like the Ravens of 2000 or the Giants of 2007 - this type of underdog has made the superbowl many times over the last few years, even Arizona last year so i don't think it is that far fetched that the Jets win SU, but more than likely i see it 24-17 Dolts |
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Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:
Ok.....I am pounding the Chargers.......the Jets have flown as far as they can......litterally........to the west coast.....game over!!!!!
You are a smart man |
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Can anybody help me find out what the Jets record is ATS in California the past few years? Or in SD at least? |
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If Minny keeps this up i am 3-3 on the weekend and feeling really good. Going to take SD double what i usually would. Been seeing these home teams just jump on the visitors (even with Hightowers run and baltimores opening drive) and if San Diego does this and gets a 2 score lead it may become a nasty route. SD by 10+
BTW why do so many guys try to call out this "Vue" guy, it seems to me he comes here for the right reasons and caps games and posts his research - you guys instigate with him for no reason and he talks back, but i don't think guy really started much with anyone, he's just posting his picks and research...i love the info he provides in fact. And even though i may disagree with his picks at times, i don't call him a douchebag just cuz i don't agree. Grow up fellas |
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...b/c Vegas rarely loses, just bet on their side, the trick is to figure out who they are betting on!!
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I went with IrishEyez pick and theory - it was the best evidence ive seen on this entire thread thanks for that pick, it i exactly how i like to play.
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Anybody using the Cowboys and Jets wins as a factor in their play? Seeing that both those teams won 2 in a row vs. the same opponent?
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I wonder what the O/U was last year when they totalled a measly 33 points.
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Quote Originally Posted by implusive:
This confuses me. (not much doesn't).... If public is hammering the over, wouldn't the book's total go up? Aside from my question: If they played to a 17-16 final last year with virtually the same teams in tact......The under sounds good to me.
The number is going down because they are begging you to take the over - when the public pounds one side and the line goes the wrong way its 'usually' a sign that they are begging you to take that side (in this case the over). I'll go small on the under tonight.
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Boise St. +7
I would go with another low scoring affair - game goes either way but enough for Boise to cover. Not too much real handicapping going on in this thread huh? I thought you boys (and girls) did your research!
Excited for some Monday night football!!!
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Sorry for double-posting - i was really wondering if anybody had a take on the Surface of this game and the fact that TCU seems disappointed to be in this bowl game with this opponent - Anybody have any color to provide on either of these items?
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Do you cappers think there is anything to be said about a team that is disappointed to be in their bowl game getting thrashed? Boise is obviously a turf team and will be on grass....is TCU a grass team playing on grass toinght?? IS that statement accurate?
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Even in Tennessee's wins their defense let up a lot of points - in their losses they let up a tremendous amount of points. Houstons D isn't much better, both teams have good offenses, this one is played in the 30's, similiar to their first mathchup. Over 48.5 |
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Mannix from what i've ready you are having a good day today I think, huh?? I'm feeling pretty good myself, literally am 7-0 in my last 7 plays (hope i don't jinx myself), today I hit Wash Minn (3x) NE (pending)
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Sorry for being in the wrong thread here but i wanted to post this info from earlier - I think today DD Favs went 2-2 (Minn/No - - Dal/Pitt) with New England pending. Just wanted to throw this out there b/c of the lack of parity this year in the NFL i hear Vegas has been getting murdered on people taking Favs who cover all year long. Looks like its starting to balance out now though. QUOTE Originally Posted by jgenti: As for this game, I like the Eagles to put pressure on Cutler and make a couple of mistakes - its in his nature - he's not going to get conservative just cuz he's been throwing a lot of picks, he'll keep it up - maybe not 5 but a couple i'd guess. If Philly can capitalize, they'll win by 2 scores IMO. Perhaps something to keep an eye on - whichever team can get an early lead SHOULD be able to take this game - if Philly gets an early lead (say with a DeSean Jackson return) I see Cutler forcing things and throwing picks - just a thought. Good luck all -
Signed, Giants Fan who hates betting philly but knows thinks easy money tonight.
For the Bears backers, how do you see this game shaping out? Counting on philly mistakes? Special Teams? I don't see them just straight up outplaying the Eagles and methodically moving the ball upfield all game - i think for Bears to cover they will need some big plays and luck (turnovers, special teams plays, penalties)
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Anyone who thinks OSU is overlooking this game or looking past it b/c of the Rose Bowl is nuts - this is the biggest game of any year for these teams there is no overlooking MIchigan when you play for ohio state. From the minute you sign your letter of intent in high school you are preparing for THIS GAME. Also, there was a post above about Rich Rod and Charlie having coffee...this is only Rich Rod's second year, which means the players he recruited for his style are only sophmores or frosh - and his QB is a freshman - there is no way they'd fire him this year no matter what happens. Excellent point on the michigan smaller D wearing down throughout the game and season - thats a great take, i'll be keeping my eye on that. Finally, I'm a UM fan I say this I think this is a close game till the 3rd Q in which OSU pulls away and makes a close competitive game into a blowout and wins by 20+ tomorrow. I'll be rooting like hell for UM but i won't be betting on them tomorrow - staying away and enjoying the show. |
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Spytheweb, just curious how much you weigh historical information in your capping. Part of me says "what does a game in November of 2007 have to do with this sunday??" But another part of me puts decent stock, and I tell myself that "even though washington has sucked for years they play Dallas tough." Its getting later in the season so I expect Romo to turn the ball over a couple times and i think that will be just enough for the 'skins to put up 7 or 10 points ... which should be just enough for them to cover. Dallas will probably score in the high 20s and the skins around 20. Am I going to rely on 'boys mistakes to win a bet? They make a ton of mistakes but I'm not sure i want to rely on that to win - maybe stay away from this one. If i had to bet i'd go with the dawgs in this one.
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I think Detroit wins by double digits - I think they are much better than the browns, bucs and Rams in fact. I know they lost to the Rams and the Rams played decent vs. the Saints, but I think the Lion would beat them if they played again. Kevin Smith goes for 120 and we see a game similar to the Detroit/Washington game from october. Det -2.5 |
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anyone knows who posted this???
ATTN ALL OF U DALLAS HATERS.....suck it. suck it real good. I'm not a dallas homer, far from it. I'm calling out suckers like Gerard pm & Halzer 1. I honestly didn't know if Dallas would beat philly, but I saw some dumb**** commments like Dallas will lose 34-14 to philly and other moronic blowout scenarios. It's almost a FACT that Dallas is a top 10 team and arguably a top 5 team. Top 3 teams in the NFC as of Tod, 1) New Orleans, 2) Minn, and 3) Dallas. Want to dispute that? the be prepared to
the only advantage that Green Bay possibly has on Dallas is the fact that the game is in Gb. that's it. Dallas is better in all facets of the game. Is it a guarantee that Dallas will cover? no, but Dallas has proven to the world that they have a STOUT D. Jay Ratliff and Co will put Aaron Rodgers on his back more than Jessica Simpson when she was dating Romo.
I would make a small play on this one either way. Maybe Dallas has a slight let down from their Phily victory. maybe Gb is ramped up due to losing to Tamba Bay. I would be leery of any team that lost to Tampa myself. Either way, take the over 47.5. both teams are in the top 10 in offense at & 5 and 7 respectively. Both teams should be ready to score. I'm thinking a 30-25 type of game.
I'm sorry That I called out a few people on here in advance, but I thought this was a site for Educated fans like spyweb. He likes to Rip Dallas every chance he gets but it's backed by facts. I didn't see Spy predict a ludicrious blowout. but some of the jokers on here acted like the Kc and Atl wins by Dallas didn't mean nada. last time I checked this was the NFL and not college. Dallas has 0 control over their schedule.
Get on a winner and don't ever Doubt Dallas will be competive again at your peril for the rest of this season. (unless it's the playoffs......)
Gl mi amigos
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